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Old 01-24-2007, 02:24 PM
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Chris,
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(1) in lots of cases the therapy simply does not work;
(2) the side effects can be very bad: depression and the development of suicidal tendencies are not unkown;
(3) many ex-gays later turn into ex-ex-gays;
(4) no serious medical organization aproves of this kind of therapy;
(5) in the case of "aversion therapy" it is rather hard to see how the actual practice of this therapy is to be reconciled with the concept of human dignity;
(6) quite often the therapists do not have proper qualifications and, compared to standard psychotherapy practices, seem to operate in rather amateuristic ways.
In my opinion it is because the field has been politicized by for lack of a better term 'pro gay' forces -the same way the fields of anthropology and history took far left terms post WWII. Anthropology's turn was based on out right falsification and lies - which are still widely believed.

With improved techniques, and as you imply - if more professional bodies took up the practice, we might see better results.

Most substance treatment programs like AA and such have low sucess levels too. i don't think its a reason to stop them.
You say the side effects can be bad - maybe so, but the successes often say they find new levels of happiness - even one of the psychologists who treated them said he was able to get gays out of a destructive anonymous sex pattern - there are plenty of testimonials here:
Interviews/Testimonials

regarding spitzer:
Spitzer's conclusions are simply this: based on his study, there is evidence to suggest that some gay men and lesbians are not only able to change self-identity, but are able to modify core features of sexual orientation, including fantasies.
Spitzer Study Critiqued in the Journal of Gay and Lesbian Psychotherapy
It appears that the activist-authors of the Journal of Gay and Lesbian Psychotherapy were outraged that the study was published at all, a sad commentary for a professional journal. Spitzer's motives were questioned, his credibility attacked and his research subjected to a kind of scrutiny unparalleled in any scientific arena.

As a scientist, I find the journal's approach in this issue to be both disingenuous and intolerant. Disagreement among scientists is healthy. Name-calling and intimidation tactics are not.

To me, that speaks volumes.

Socarides treated patients for homosexuality throughout his career. He reported that "about a third" [1] of his patients became heterosexual and led heterosexual lives after treatment.
Charles Socarides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Homosexuality: A Freedom Too Far

Last edited by dor : 01-24-2007 at 03:57 PM. Reason: clarity, AA
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