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Originally Posted by moviestar  This state can be induced by drugs, therefore it removes any form of spirituality from it IMO. The state of oneness is some kind of brain malfunction, like being drunk with alcohol. This is why people took LSD in the 70's, it's the same thing I guess. This state of oneness feels good but is it good for you?
Eckhart Tolle spent 2 years on a park bench in this state. He was basically a bum. What I'm trying to say is that this state is not normal and doesn't help you survive in this world. That's why it's nice to have this sort of trip from time to time but having it all the time would be a mistake. |
Interesting take one oneness. I'd be disappointed if it's a malfunction. Is enlightenment or assenscion or awakening or conversion also malfunctions?
I thought perhaps humans used to tune in to oneness and live that way with nature. Now with our egos so well defined and with the "I, me, mine" culture we have gotten even farther from oneness. To me, it seems the more natural state is oneness - which is exactly a spiritual experience. When someone starts to feel this it is overwhelming and can produce problems like wanting to leave the ego world completly, be a bum on a park benach for a while. But that's (I think) just because we are so used to being separated from nature and there's an overcoorection in a way that makes the oneness feeling more extreme.
I like to think that one can carry the oneness feeling around at all times (not as a some wacky trip) and be functional too (and more peaceful in functioning). Reminds me of Alan Clements giving up his monk robe because at first he wanted to just bliss out and remain in the monestery but eventually decided to give up the monk world to hopefully operate in the ego world with more spiritual understanding (at least that's what I remember from reading some of his stuff).
It used to be, I imagine, that humans were able to survive the world exactly because of being more in the oneness world. Having the instinct and intuitions connected with nature and knowing, for example, ok we have to move now to the south before the snow comes, or not overharvesting or overhunting or overproducing because this oneness feeling was more prevelant.