Originally Posted by Angela
Hey, RS -- I haven't seen too many evolutionary scientists adamantly deny the possibility of a creator of the universe (not even Dr....no, I won't go there!). But what they, and I, see as so unlikely as to be impossible is that that this creator is an entity that watches over us, answers prayers, cares what we do, and rewards and punishes us for our behavior.
And again, if the universe has a creator, who created it? I think that's what you'd call a square peg, too.
Yes, that's the "ancient wizard in the sky" concept that fundamentalists can't let go of. No, I dropped belief in that many moons ago.
The answer that makes most sense is that the creator is US, and we reward and punish ourselves through karmic law, and/or our very own belief systems that trap us within hells of our own making.
As to your second question, a question is not a square peg. I used the analogy to describe hard facts and/or evidence that flies in the face of current accepted theory. "Who created it?" is a question open to debate, not any sort of fact that has been judged valid by society.
A square peg example is, well, 65 million-year-old T-Rex bones. Pure creationists have no square hole in their theory of a 6,000 year old universe to handle this fact. They attempt to create one by saying ridiculous things like, "Satan was allowed to plant dinosaur bones in order to trick us" or that "Dinosuars walked the Earth alongside man and carbon dating is horribly flawed."
They are so afraid of the fires of hell that they would rather look like idiots to the rest of us than simply adjust their beliefs to LOGICALLY allow for both theories to coexist.
If we are creations of God, then God created our advanced brains for a purpose. Surely that purupose is not to blindly accept the fables imagined in the uneducated minds of religious power mongers who lived thousands of years before indoor plumbing!
To say "We created it, for We are all POE's (Points of Experience) of the OUC, is a reasonable and logical adjustment to creation theory that allows for both belief in subjective reality AND scientific facts TO DATE to co-exist.
Being, however, stuck within my illusion that I am NOT the OUC, I humbly keep my mind open for future adjustment whenevery necessary due to unforseen facts not yet in evidence.