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Originally Posted by Cantando I am actually wondering why you do not seem to be grasping the (what I thought was) rather simple point I was trying to make.
OK, for one last time (deep breath), I'll make it as simple as I possibly can |



I grasp what you're saying, alright, Cantando: a lie is a lie. If you do something and then you deliberately deny that you did it, then that's a lie. Case closed, game over, that's reality, there's no arguing, it's The Truth about Lies.
I get it!


You're right, it IS simple, and it's also ordinary. Many people would agree with you, and that's the ordinary way that people normally look at "lying."
I hadn't know all the meaning you make about it until you listed it out in your last post -- that was very interesting!
Now, are you grasping what I'M saying? It's not the ordinary way of looking at it, so it may not be so simple. A lie is not always a lie, and a lie can be transformed if you shift your perspective. Transformation comes in really handy if you want to have a life that works really well. It can generate love where there was resistance, it can generate ease and effortlessness where there was struggle, and it can generate connection where there was separateness.
I'm not talking about any new-age whooo-whooo, and I'm not playing word games. It's not hard for me to see that you might see what I'm saying as denial of truth or polyanna-ishness or just sheer cussedness, and I get your perspective! Been there, done that. And it's like those people who see the
spinning ballerina and think that they have no power over which way she appears to spin.
What you're saying is true, but it's not The Truth. See what I mean?