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By dor, Today 12:53 PM
harris and dawkins help to keep alive the big lie that 'crazy islamo-facists want to take over the world' or that the conflicts in the middle east are caused by islam. And because many americans have been duped or deceived into that notion.
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Have you visited your local Christian bookstore lately, dor?
Lots more people are buying those
Christian books about "crazy islamo-facists" than are buying Harris' and Dawkins' books, I would imagine. I don't
know that, but I would guess that's true.
Now, if the
fundamentalist scientists get in cahoots with the
fundamentalist Christians against the "crazy islamo-facists," then, I would say we could have ourselves a real hot Armageddon, indeed.
If you have to destroy the world to save it, well, you gotta do what you gotta do, if your worldview is black and white.
Would you consider owning that Dawkins and Haggard are perfect foils for each other in this video?
YouTube - Ted Haggard in "Root of All Evil?"
Dawkins didn't make this all up out of whole cloth--he's reacting against something! To make like he's not got something very real he's reacting to seems disingenuous to me, and agenda-driven, just like you want to make Dawkins out to be.
I'm not saying he's
not agenda-driven, but c'mon, get real, Christianity is getting pretty scary itself, dor!
To expect every representative of science to be a model of reason but to give Christian extremists a free pass--tell me what to call that besides an agenda?
I challenge you to bend the considerable force of your intellect toward the aim of creating a balanced picture of how this polarized situation actually was created.
Projecting all the blame on the evil others, whether they are scientific or religious evil others, is not going to help.
And co-opting spiritual experience as only religious, and then painting people who are not religious as culturally deficient as you do on this thread is just painful to behold.
I have impulses to disavow Christianity in big red capital letters, if you want to know the truth, when I read that stuff you write to Michael, not to mention when I watch Ted Haggard in action. Aaargh!
I won't, of course, but I have to work with myself about it, which isn't a bad thing, of course.
Why would anyone want to read your musty old sages when you have that condescending attitude towards them? I certainly wouldn't.
And especially when there's no one stopping people from forging their own spiritual outlooks, since spirituality is innate.
OK, that said, I agree with you about the French Revolution and Brasilia, etc., etc. Organic is better. You can't pull a culture up by the roots and make another one, bingo-bango.
Culture is like topsoil--it takes a long, long time to make, but you can lose it very quickly if you're not careful and respectful. It's an evolutionary thing, and quixotic social experiments are usually disastrous.
But Christianity really has made itself a stench in the nostrils of many modern people, and rightly so. We have to own that, not blame
them for it, if we hope that Christianity is to be more than a cracked and discarded old wineskin, useless in the modern world.