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Originally Posted by Angela

You want us to talk about Johnny in front of his back?

He is a member of these forums, you know; you could be totally straight and address him directly. Do you not trust yourself to recognize what works for you? Must you check with others before you're willing to believe or disbelieve? All these people out here can give you their opinion, but they can't tell you what is true for you -- and that's what Johnny has done here in the forums: expressed what is true for him. He's not preaching any dogma of Ultimate Truth. Whether it's true for you is your business, and you are certainly free to discuss opinions with others.

Just like any other member here, you are free to use any of what they say that works for you, and even to challenge something you don't buy. But to suggest that what he says is B.S. (by presupposing that in your question) and to address such a question to others rather than to the man himself? That strikes me as rather disrespectful of another member.

Johnny Soporno's ideas are pretty unusual by "normal" standards. I think it's neither disrespectful nor unwise to post a thread asking what other people think.

Originally Posted by MinglewoodBlues

I'm opening this thread to find out opinions people have about J.Soporno's philosophy, belief system, strategy, what ever you want to call it. This is for people who really took the time to watch his seductive reasoning videos. People who actually listened honestly, maybe took notes whatever.

Now he seems honest as he claims. He seems to genuinely believe he's "giving the straight dope" as he says. But is he none the less saying many things that have no actual real world truth? This is my question. Because I find it hard to believe that women are as receptive as he claims to the kinds of things he approaches them with. I have been in this world close to the same amount of time that he has and I have never seen any evidence of women being so easily good to go for "RIGHT NOW" sex the way he would claim is some how normal everyday nature. I don't really buy it. Sure there are instances at times maybe. But he is trying to give some paradigm of WOMEN CRAVE SEX AS MUCH AS MEN AND ARE QUITE NORMALLY IN THE MODE TO WANT IT. This is extremely hard to believe without some evidence.

I have given his speech to a number of women. I've done it in a lot of different ways, using different approaches, emphases, sometimes saying more and sometimes saying less depending on my mood in the moment. I have not been in a mode of looking for sex right away, so I'm not surprised that hasn't happened yet.

That said, every woman I know has found the ideas at least interesting or compelling, I have a few converts. I have to say, Johnny really helped me find how I want to live my life. And I really like this notion of sexual friendship.

The other thing is how much he refers to knowing or hooking up with people in porn or the sex industry. Does this count as everyday situations between everyday men and women? I kind of think not.

I know a few escorts and they really appreciated what I had to say. Then again, so did some of the most "cartel oriented" people I know. The more prudish a girl is, the more I find she appreciates what I have to say.

I do think he gives a lot of practical and good advice. Men and women being friends before or during being lovers. Great! This is a kind of common sense approach that many "experts" would advise. More common sense things like getting a woman's guard down. Of course very true. Creating an environment where the stupid tensions of a battle of the sexes, or men and women being some "other" mentality is eliminated. Absolutely agree with many of these points.

True, some of this stuff has been approached in a slightly different way.

So tell me. What do you think? How much do you think Soporno is right? Or does your B.S. meter go off at all from some of what he says?

I think it's brilliant. I have a really hard time explaining it to people - it's so different. It's been a bit frustrating at first that it takes so long for me to explain who I am. But I'm figuring it out.

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