i appreciate the info neo1234. to briefly explain the "dabbling"...many years ago i was involved with man who had another woman who was good at pseudo-bible babble...but apparently was involved in a darker side of ceremony as well. and i have to admit that i investigated many religious avenues of counter attack, which i believe opened me up for harm. there were people who simply did not wish me well. i still worry about a childhood frightening encounter with a ouija board, also. maybe i am just crazy