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Joshiepoo3000 · 01-20-2007, 06:21 PM

Agnostic:
1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.

Belief:
2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof:

Know:
4. be acquainted with (a thing, place, person, etc.), as by sight, experience, or report: to know the mayor.
5. to understand from experience or attainment (usually fol. by how before an infinitive): to know how to make gingerbread.

Based on these definitions, I have come to this conclusion.
I am an Agnostic Christian. God cannot be proven to exist. He doesn't actually exist at present time. He must be either accepted or He must prove Himself to us. I accept Him. If you require proof, then it will be dificult to accept Him. Once accepted, one can make sense of Him.
Knowing and believing in God is a paradox. You both know and believe in Him simultaniously, though nothing that exists can be believed and known at the same time. As I said, God does not exist. If you read my other messages in threads about objective and subjective reality, you will understand what I mean when I say, "God does not exist, because He is objective reality. He is space and time itself. He does not exist when He is in your subjective reality, or mind in other words, either, because He only has a place in time and not space. Since He only fits half the equation He cannot exist there either." However, since objective and subjective reality are two halves to the whole of reality, and God is in both, God is real and truth. Reality is truth and since God is in both halves of reality, He is true. God is an enigma.

I know that, since people don't agree with this conclusion, they will not trust it. They will question the definitions and try to make it not make sense. They will come up with every reason they can to discredit this. I ask people to try if they wish. Let me put it to the test. I know this to be true. It is almost mathematics, it is logic. No one can break a true logic. You can try, but my mind will never be changed. I both believe and know. It is impossible to break that. They are a balance of powers.

01-20-2007, 06:21 PM	#28 (permalink)
Joshiepoo3000 Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Washington Posts: 84	Agnostic: 1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience. Belief: 2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: Know: 4. be acquainted with (a thing, place, person, etc.), as by sight, experience, or report: to know the mayor. 5. to understand from experience or attainment (usually fol. by how before an infinitive): to know how to make gingerbread. Based on these definitions, I have come to this conclusion. I am an Agnostic Christian. God cannot be proven to exist. He doesn't actually exist at present time. He must be either accepted or He must prove Himself to us. I accept Him. If you require proof, then it will be dificult to accept Him. Once accepted, one can make sense of Him. Knowing and believing in God is a paradox. You both know and believe in Him simultaniously, though nothing that exists can be believed and known at the same time. As I said, God does not exist. If you read my other messages in threads about objective and subjective reality, you will understand what I mean when I say, "God does not exist, because He is objective reality. He is space and time itself. He does not exist when He is in your subjective reality, or mind in other words, either, because He only has a place in time and not space. Since He only fits half the equation He cannot exist there either." However, since objective and subjective reality are two halves to the whole of reality, and God is in both, God is real and truth. Reality is truth and since God is in both halves of reality, He is true. God is an enigma. I know that, since people don't agree with this conclusion, they will not trust it. They will question the definitions and try to make it not make sense. They will come up with every reason they can to discredit this. I ask people to try if they wish. Let me put it to the test. I know this to be true. It is almost mathematics, it is logic. No one can break a true logic. You can try, but my mind will never be changed. I both believe and know. It is impossible to break that. They are a balance of powers. Last edited by Joshiepoo3000; 01-20-2007 at 06:30 PM.