Personal Development for Smart People Forums - View Single Post - Your opinions about Mr. Johnny Soporno please

Cameron Teone · 04-25-2009, 01:51 AM

Hey Minglewood Blues,

I am not sure if you’re asking just for the sake of genuine curiosity or if you’re looking for something that is applicable for YOU personally. I am going to assume it’s the latter.

Before I get to that, I should probably establish that I am not some random dude just hypothesizing about dating theory. I have been around the teaching side of things since about 2003.

I have watched quite a bit of the seductive reasoning videos you speak of, and to top that, I’ve heard the theory on numerous occasions from Johnny himself. I’ve hung out with him in Vegas and LA. I’ve also spent countless hours hanging with people like “Mystery” and the ilk (Neil Strauss and all the characters included.) back in the day. (Back in the being 2004, 2005). I know their systems back and forth. (I’ve even worked and helped teach for some these guys when I stared.)

I personally have taught over a 100 guys doing “Field Workshops” where I was instructing guys how to approach, interact and attract women live in the field, (Bars, clubs, coffee shops, restaurants, booksores, you name it…)

So here is what I’d tell you:

There are various tips you can learn from every person. Some of Mystery’s stuff is completely whacky, but then he has some good points that you can learn. What becomes of paramount importance to YOU is to realize WHAT TYPE OF WOMEN YOU WANT TO ATTRACT IN YOUR LIFE.

Most dating advice is geared towards certain demographics, a certain target audience. What archetype of woman do you desire? You looking to meet “Club chicks” who are out in nightclubs getting drunk every weekend? You looking to meet someone ambitious and driven? You looking to meet someone whose primary goals include getting married and raising a family? You looking to date someone who is a stripper or in the Porn Industry?

Please bear in mind that there are underlying principles that help a guy become more attractive. An obvious example of that is possessing true confidence. I say true, because most people pretend to be confident, which is a far cry from actually having a high self-image of oneself.

Getting past the foundational points, different dating coaches will suggest different “Philosophies” and “Tactics.” These are based on their experiences and the type of women they have dealt with.

So to bring this full circle, go with your instinct. If you happen to be watching VH-1 and see Mystery parading around with party women looking for a good time in clubs, then realize that a lot of what he preaches “Negs, etc” and the way he dresses is designed for that particular environment. Apply that same mindset to other dating “Gurus,” Johnny included.

Cameron

04-25-2009, 01:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
Cameron Teone Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southern California Posts: 24	Hey Minglewood Blues, I am not sure if you’re asking just for the sake of genuine curiosity or if you’re looking for something that is applicable for YOU personally. I am going to assume it’s the latter. Before I get to that, I should probably establish that I am not some random dude just hypothesizing about dating theory. I have been around the teaching side of things since about 2003. I have watched quite a bit of the seductive reasoning videos you speak of, and to top that, I’ve heard the theory on numerous occasions from Johnny himself. I’ve hung out with him in Vegas and LA. I’ve also spent countless hours hanging with people like “Mystery” and the ilk (Neil Strauss and all the characters included.) back in the day. (Back in the being 2004, 2005). I know their systems back and forth. (I’ve even worked and helped teach for some these guys when I stared.) I personally have taught over a 100 guys doing “Field Workshops” where I was instructing guys how to approach, interact and attract women live in the field, (Bars, clubs, coffee shops, restaurants, booksores, you name it…) So here is what I’d tell you: There are various tips you can learn from every person. Some of Mystery’s stuff is completely whacky, but then he has some good points that you can learn. What becomes of paramount importance to YOU is to realize WHAT TYPE OF WOMEN YOU WANT TO ATTRACT IN YOUR LIFE. Most dating advice is geared towards certain demographics, a certain target audience. What archetype of woman do you desire? You looking to meet “Club chicks” who are out in nightclubs getting drunk every weekend? You looking to meet someone ambitious and driven? You looking to meet someone whose primary goals include getting married and raising a family? You looking to date someone who is a stripper or in the Porn Industry? Please bear in mind that there are underlying principles that help a guy become more attractive. An obvious example of that is possessing true confidence. I say true, because most people pretend to be confident, which is a far cry from actually having a high self-image of oneself. Getting past the foundational points, different dating coaches will suggest different “Philosophies” and “Tactics.” These are based on their experiences and the type of women they have dealt with. So to bring this full circle, go with your instinct. If you happen to be watching VH-1 and see Mystery parading around with party women looking for a good time in clubs, then realize that a lot of what he preaches “Negs, etc” and the way he dresses is designed for that particular environment. Apply that same mindset to other dating “Gurus,” Johnny included. Cameron