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Originally Posted by newsbone  .
.During the early stages of the cult, the notion of rebirth would have been foreign to its basic outlook. And if then it was included, it was while it developed as a form of religion. If my history serves me right "While there are several sources that suggest that Mithraism included a notion of rebirth, they are all post-Christian. The earliest...dates from the end of the second century A.D” |
Not your history, your bias google searching you just did proves you right...
The only text to support you is bias christian lies.
Mithras was born in a cave, on December 25th, of a virgin mother. He came from heaven to be born as a man, to redeem men from their sin. He was know as "Savior," "Son of God," "Redeemer," and "Lamb of God." With twelve disciples he traveled far and wide as a teacher and illuminator of men. He was buried in a tomb from which he rose again from the dead, YES HE ROSE AGAIN -- an event celebrated yearly with much rejoicing. His followers kept the Sabbath holy, holding sacramental feasts in remembrance of Him. The sacred meal of bread and water, or bread and wine, was symbolic of the body and blood of the sacred bull.
The halo of light around the gods face, temptation by a devil like creature.
In many non bias (NOT CHRISTIAN OR JEWISH) historical sources pre-dating Christianity you find the Gods were - born on or very near our Christmas Day, were born of a Virgin-Mother,w ere born in a Cave or Underground Chamber were born in a cave or underground chamber, led a life of toil for mankind, were called by the names of Light-bringer, healer, mediator, savior, deliverer, were however vanquished by the powers of darkness and descended into hell or the underworld, rose again from the dead, and became the pioneers of mankind to the Heavenly world, founded communions of Saints and churches into which disciples were received by baptism, were commemorated by eucharistic meals.
It's true no matter how much you whine.
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Originally Posted by newsbone All the foundational teachings of Christianity has the scriptural backing in the Old Testament, which as far as you are concerned is not related to your boyfriend Constantine |
But the truth that Jesus was just a good man and a teacher not a god was hidden by Constantine.
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Originally Posted by newsbone Come on! Finish the verse, your selective obsession is affecting your perspective, why do you choose to jump verse 9 of the same chapter? It reads;
“ If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”
What is this, I must win no matter what sort of thing? Does this then imply your approach to history; don’t mention what will make us irrelevant, sort of argument? |
Heh. That's funny. Change the subject, prove a point never in question, then pretend you've finally "won" something. LOL.
Another strawman. I was just pointing out some inconsistencies in John. The ones you are pretending don't exist. Not questioning who goes to hell and when. LOL. If your goal is to consistently make yourself look out-debated, you've WON!! heh.
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Originally Posted by newsbone You mean you can’t even understand the basis of this simple advice to remind people of their divine obligation not to sin? Who have I been conversing with, your brother, put him on, you can continue playing hide and seek. |
No John says some Christians never sin. Then he says everyone sins. The bible is as inconsistent as you are.
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Originally Posted by newsbone This is becoming more interesting; what does the exercise of freedom of choice make you? Ooops! I forgot historians are trained free thinkers within the confines of narration of their version of the past as seen today! How can you even consider yourself a free thinker, whilst your perspective is heavily influenced by one department of knowledge? |
Because I look at the past and see what it says. Christians look at the past, see what it says, then change it if it doesn't fit their model. IT JUST HAPPENED HERE!! We already saw that with Constantines Bishop. I pointed out how they know he forged the documents. You completely dis-regarded it because it didn't fit you version of history. You actually said "aw c'mon...it was probably a mistake..." There are actually MORE reasons why they know it's a forgery. Since your mind is already made up, your objective thinking has been erased by brainwashing I'm not bothering to give the other reasons. I have proven exactly how actual facts are disregarded by bias people. It happened IN THIS THREAD!! That's it. I'm done with that. I don't need to re-hash the same thing over and over. Done. Proven. Goodbye.
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Originally Posted by newsbone Speak of double standards! You made a choice to study and believe whatever history will teach you, does that make you a free thinker when all your decisions are heavily borrowed from other peoples perspective (facts are personal opinions) of the past? As a Christian I live by the Word of God and within that (just like your infatuation with history) am free to make choices including disobedience to the very teaching( if i choose to) this is something egocentrics cant do. |
So having your opinions limited to 1 book that Constantine put together to control you makes you a free thinker. I'm saying NO! No. N/O. n~owe. That's it. Done.
I don't know why you are so concerned about what I think. You think as freely as you can. That's enough for you, at least you have a religion you like. Yep, I find you to be low on the thinking, debating, humility and tolerance scale. It's not gonna change. Get over it. Or not.
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Originally Posted by newsbone You seem fascinated with rape and adultery! What are the moral teachings behind these verses? Obviously your selective mind cannot grasp this higher teachings. |
No I'm fascinated at how lame the bible can be. Yep, I point out a problematic bible verse and you turn it around to make it about me. You have the debate style of a junior high student.
It's my fault for still being here. I'm tired of baby sitting.
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Originally Posted by newsbone Ha! You can’t have your cake and eat it. We very special to be bonded to such unbelievers as you. |
There is something wrong with you. I just kicked your ass on bible knowledge
and you come back with some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sentence, that means nothing??
You are creeping me out. I'm not even enjoying whooping your ass anymore.
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Originally Posted by newsbone Keep on! Prophet of Doom! |
See, I was just pointing out that fundys are not spiritual just religious, they usually condem you to hell at some point. But now I am the prophet of doom? If you get caught wishing someone to hell (for real), you could just drop it and not reply. But u can't then just turn around and call them an evil prophet?? I mean you said it?? Something is not right here. Am I talking to a 12 year old? I see your methodology, if you are wrong, just turn it around and say the other person did it. Or answer a made-up question. That's what kids do.
I think we've covered everything. Over and over.
It doesn't behoove me to continue here as it does NOT matter what is said, you just pretend like things are always going your way, even when it's a COMPLETE fiction. You tell me, why would I debate someone who every time I prove them wrong they ignore it or disregard it??