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pro gay groups have a lot of influence in certain areas- media- universities- and they STIFLE DISCUSSION of alternatives - and a lot of it looks frankly like recruitment...that is my main point.
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I do agree that the strongest activists tend to discourage discussion.
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In africa, my point is that promiscuous behavior leads directly to poverty and death - here we have a cushion of wealth against it but the effects might just take longer to manifest....but they are trying to organize extremely chaotic societies - and promoting 'libertineism' or 'just do what you feel like' is literally a death knell for them. Lack of sexual awareness is putting lightly - there are rumors for example you can cure aids by having sex with a virgin - so men rape babies - I am not making this up.
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I could've sworn that said 'sex with a vegan' (which would not only cure AIDS, but cancer, heart disease, obesity, ADHD, and every other disease

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I think you're talking about something entirely different than the rest of us. The discussion is about the moral/spiritual implications of homosexuality, not of certain fringe cultures which may or may not involve homosexuality.