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Originally Posted by The David  Condemnation is a word that has lost its definition due to the fact that no one want's to think they're condemning someone. I don't know if I would say he's condemning them, but it would be nice if he had backed up at least one of his points. Those are some awfully broad generalizations.
I do understand how some homosexuals could be unhappy with their orientation. They can't have children with their partner (unless they marry the opposite gender, as some do, and probably will regret). However, the entire post seemed a bit too...what's the word? "Religiously-charged," I guess.
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the david - I am not sure what you mean - there are a lot of arguements against homosexuality, but some of the most succesful 'conversions' come from religius experience/conversion so its pretty hard to separate the two ...
Here is a wiki on the Dr. Spitzer
He was controversial in 1973 for arguing that homosexuality is not a clinical disorder, although the mainstream psychiatric community was eventually swayed to this point of view.
In 2001
, Spitzer delivered a controversial paper at the 2001 annual APA meeting arguing that "highly motivated" individuals could "successfully" change their sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. The APA immediately issued an official disavowal of the paper, noting that it had not been peer reviewed and bluntly stating that "There is no published scientific evidence supporting the efficacy of reparative therapy as a treatment to change one's sexual orientation."[1]
Robert Spitzer (psychiatrist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
regarding backing up....it's a bit much to go into here but decadence and libertinsim do not go hand in hand with classical liberalism - in fact usually the opposite is true - decadent societies are usually ones that are falling apart (late Moorish Spain, Late Rome, Entruscans, Weimer Germany, Moghul India to use a few examples) and they are usually conqureed by a more 'upright' people (Stoic republican rome, Christian Spain under Isabella, Protestant Britian/Northern Europe vs. Precounter reformation southern europe).
(some people theorize nations/peoples fall when the family unit- the building block of society - falls apart (late rome for example tried to require all patricians have three children) often homosexuality is a hallmark of that break down. - granted so is 'free love' childless marriages, ect.