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Originally Posted by joelr  It really makes no sense to try a copy-paste debate. I don't mind Bible quotes. But the rest is pointless. There are 1000's of writings by people who claim to be abducted by grey ufos. I do not believe them. I don't care what they say or by whom they were wrote. Get over it.. |
Intransigence! I presume, seen it many a times, so no one is right except you and everybody else is wrong pending your declaration to the otherwise.
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Originally Posted by joelr At any rate, there is no non-Christian record of Jesus before the second century. References in Flavius Josephus (end of the first century) can be dismissed as later Christian insertions (Bishop Eusebius admitted it was ok to "lie for the Lord", had ties with Constantine like I said, and experts have concluded, that Eusebius forged the paragraph in question and then attributed it to your Jew for Jesus, Josephus) the writings of Roman historian Tacitus concerning the alleged historicity of Jesus are neither clear or specific - ample evidence exists to show that Tacitus was simply repeating what he had been told by Christian informants. I mean he identified Pilate by the rank of procurator, which title was a Roman administrative office from the second half of the first century!! The writings of the Jewish historian Josephus on the allegedly historic Jesus have undeniably been adulterated by others with a pro-Christian spin, and the observations of the Roman governor of Bithynia, Plithy the Younger, do not provide reliable evidence of Jesus’ actual existence. Blah, blah, blah.... |
Thousands of years from now historians shall dispute that George. W. Bush was not a president of the U.S.A, why? Because he used very un-presidential English; like mis-underestimated. Come on you know better than that; if we choose to judge someone for some written mistakes you wouldn’t be here know, would you? Get over it.
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Originally Posted by joelr You will not find these things from pro-Christian websites or books. I don't care, this stuff is so uninteresting. I've seen these debates before and am NOT interested. I've already spent countless hours reading this stuff. If historical quotes are all you've got, go away.. |
From an alleged historian am noticing a lot of bias in research, nothing appear pure to him whose only goal in life is to point out deficiencies; you go away.
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Originally Posted by joelr Your reason for believing is faith. Go for it, I don't care. My original quote that you interrupted, stands. The Jesus mythos is metaphorical to me. |
What then is your reason of whatever it is that you do? I would rather copy and paste than struggle to look…………………!