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Old 01-17-2007, 11:34 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dor View Post
Don't you find it odd that the experts blame butter and beef for heart disease, even though heart disease as we know it has only been around since 1912, and we've been eating butter for 30,000 years and beef for 3 million?
The beef and butter eaten in 1850 is different then the beef and butter we eat now. Meat also used to be fairly precious. It has never been as cheap to eat as it is today due to commercialized farming.

Also, heart disease has been around long before 1912, it's just that we don't have historical data to show who died of what before then. A few hundred years ago people believed evil spirits and curses were the cause of disease etc. The could have very well died of heart disease, but it was never recorded as that. Also, people used to get way more exercise than today. Most of us today live sedetary life styles.

As far as meat supply, only now does our cattle contain 30-40% body fat. Wild cattle only contain 2-3% body fat. Commercial farmers plump them up with fat to make more profits and to improve taste.

So it's not so much butter and meat, but rather how we make the butter and meat, and how MUCH butter and meat we eat as well as how little exercise we get.

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Don't you find it funny that the foods in all traditional diets - starting with breast milk - are loaded with saturated fat and cholesterol, yet people who eat these traditional foods liberally don't get heart disease? Nor are they fat or diabetic.
50% of the calories in breast milk comes from fat, that is correct. However, it is there to support the greatest amount of growth we do in our entire lifetime. Babies double their body weight in a matter of months. As we get older the amount of fat should be reduced to 20% not remain at 50%.

Also, breast milk is not full of refined carbohydrates, and sugars like what most of us eat.


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The experts are mistaken. The so-called diseases of civilization - obesity, diabetes, and heart disease - are not caused by real food. The diseases of industrialization - as I call them - are caused by the foods of industrialization.
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I eat grass fed meat, poutry, eggs, fish, ...i can't imagine eating vegtarian nor do i think the human body was designed to to so. As NP says, grass fed beef is a hell of a lot healtier than industrialized processed soyburgers....
I can understand having a problem with industrialized food - the way chickens are kept is enough to make a vegtarian out of anyone - just buy humanely slaughtered and raised meat and poultry,
Yup, I agree. THe problems stem from industrialization and commercialized farming.
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