[Andrew Brunelle]

I think that we really have a way too human-centered view of the world. Most people will disagree with some of the points I made in my original poost and that's fine because I see that from where you are coming from, you are right. But we lived off the Earth instead of dominating it for what I understand was 3 million years. You can argue the exact amount of years, but the truth is that the Earth was a paradise for millions of years with humans in it and now it's become a vast wasteland of pavement and strip malls. Even comedian George Carlin saw this in one of his bits. I can't find the link, but he said something to the extent of, "Only a nation of non-enlightened half-wits could turn this beautiful country into what it is today, one big ****ing shopping mall." We don't have to live like any past civilization because it will just lead back here again. We need to live like pre-historic people, hunting and gathering, not becoming part of this domination culture all over again. I doubt it is ever going to happen on a massive scale simply because the majority of people would rather take the path of least resistance and keep their televisions and running water, and computers, which in turn lead to the exploitation of people you'll never meet. Even the supermarket is filled with exploitation, not just by the workers, but the people thousands of miles away that picked your food in terrible toxic conditions due to the pesticides and herbicides. Our planet is becoming a toxic waste dump because of our vision of progress. Our species is in danger of eventually being phased out if we do not get back into balance and the Earth would be justified in doing so.

That's all I have to say about this for today.