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Originally Posted by Keith  I never said always anything.
I'm surprised by the strength of your reaction. It comes across as a bit defensive.
P.S. "Animalistic" sex demonstrates an emotional connection too - passion. Far preferable to a mechanical "going through the motions", IMO. |
I don't feel defensive -- I have no guilt or porn addiction if that's what you're getting at. I'd actually like to consume more porn, but I barely have the time or inclination, partly due to a live-in gf.
But if I sound aggressive, it's because I think we have to watch out for stuff that sounds right, but in fact contain dangerous or unhealthy assumptions and ideas. I'm not attacking you personally, and I would have the same reaction if the subject were something much less controversial -- say, dancing or television -- and someone said, "X type of dancing has no value because...," or that type of thing. Other people gave you strong rebuttals too, probably because they know that when you make broad statements peppered with key words ("disempowering," "subservient," "non-conscious"), it negatively affects the chance to have an intelligent discussion.
You said that porn that doesn't portray people as real human beings has no value to conscious people. Again, it sounds like the right thing to say, but what does it mean? Can you give an example of porn not showing people as humans? Most porn at least tries to show emotion, even if it fails miserably, so I just have no idea what you're talking about.