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Megan · 01-15-2007, 04:25 PM

JOE, I see your point exactly--"where attention goes, energy flows," etc., so if we focus on problems, we get more of the same.

I have expressed frustration here before with Gregg Braden for weaving pseudoscientific explanations for real phenomena, which just tends to muddy the water and discredit the whole enterprise in the world at large, it seems to me.

SkepticReport * Book Review: Gregg Braden, Awakening to Zero Point - The Collective Initiation

But I too appreciate Gregg for his spiritual insight, which I can't deny. I love The Isaiah Effect too, though I suspect he's made up some of the story around it. The spiritual insights are right on, IMO.

I think Gregg takes a global perspective of prayer. He sees Jesus as the 'Universal Reference Being,' and, as such, identifies with saving the whole cosmos, not just his own hide, which I see as a spiritual advance over just manifesting, say, a motor home. (Let's see, what shall I manifest, a motor home or world peace...thinking....)

Just to be brief: I believe that all the information in the world is contained in feeling states, and that a sufficiently proficient spiritual practitioner can heal others by working with his or her own feeling states, in a receptive place of complete acceptance.

Quantum physics tells us that everything is entangled. That doesn't mean we are not individuals, but it does mean that it is not realistic to project our "stuff" on other individuals. We're all here because it's all our stuff, collectively. All of it.

Jesus, as the 'Universal Reference Being,' took on the "stuff" of the world, and if we take him as a pattern, a reference template, we take it all on too, and transmute it in our own being, like a series of linked computers working on a problem.

It's not just a 'Christian' thing, but a universal, archetypal pattern, I think--sort of like what kahuna-trained Dr. Len does, discussed on this thread:

http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/p...therapist.html

If we don't take on and heal our collective past, our collective future is looking grim indeed, and manifesting motor homes, though a cool hobby, will not get us out of this mess.

I believe when individuals are radically accepting, and take 100% responsiblity for all about them, it will heal the world, in a fractal manner, over time.

01-15-2007, 04:25 PM	#22 (permalink)
Megan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 525	Focusing on problems? JOE, I see your point exactly--"where attention goes, energy flows," etc., so if we focus on problems, we get more of the same. I have expressed frustration here before with Gregg Braden for weaving pseudoscientific explanations for real phenomena, which just tends to muddy the water and discredit the whole enterprise in the world at large, it seems to me. SkepticReport * Book Review: Gregg Braden, Awakening to Zero Point - The Collective Initiation But I too appreciate Gregg for his spiritual insight, which I can't deny. I love The Isaiah Effect too, though I suspect he's made up some of the story around it. The spiritual insights are right on, IMO. I think Gregg takes a global perspective of prayer. He sees Jesus as the 'Universal Reference Being,' and, as such, identifies with saving the whole cosmos, not just his own hide, which I see as a spiritual advance over just manifesting, say, a motor home. (Let's see, what shall I manifest, a motor home or world peace...thinking....) Just to be brief: I believe that all the information in the world is contained in feeling states, and that a sufficiently proficient spiritual practitioner can heal others by working with his or her own feeling states, in a receptive place of complete acceptance. Quantum physics tells us that everything is entangled. That doesn't mean we are not individuals, but it does mean that it is not realistic to project our "stuff" on other individuals. We're all here because it's all our stuff, collectively. All of it. Jesus, as the 'Universal Reference Being,' took on the "stuff" of the world, and if we take him as a pattern, a reference template, we take it all on too, and transmute it in our own being, like a series of linked computers working on a problem. It's not just a 'Christian' thing, but a universal, archetypal pattern, I think--sort of like what kahuna-trained Dr. Len does, discussed on this thread: http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/p...therapist.html If we don't take on and heal our collective past, our collective future is looking grim indeed, and manifesting motor homes, though a cool hobby, will not get us out of this mess. I believe when individuals are radically accepting, and take 100% responsiblity for all about them, it will heal the world, in a fractal manner, over time. Last edited by Megan; 01-15-2007 at 04:38 PM.