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Old 01-12-2007, 01:05 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by outback View Post
If everything is within consciousness, why don't I remember before birth? The answers posted on here so far don't really answer this for me.

I don't quite buy the "you signed a contract and forgot who you are before you were born" deal. In such a rich environment (I am not talking just at the human scale), "recycling souls" seems very unlikely. I am more aligned with the "everything is created brand new, and never recycled" concept. I also don't buy into the "when you die, you will re-remember what you made yourself to forget".
What is it about the movie analogy that you don't get??

You go to a movie. If they started the movie and didn't turn down the lights, everyone in the audience would start to complain because they know that it detracts from the experience to be reminded that they are sitting in a theater.

If someone's cell phone rings over and over, you get annoyed because it distracts you from the story and lessens the experience by once again pulling you out of the story and back to reality. The experience is less meaningful.

So MOST movie lovers are in agreement that the lights must be out, that everyone stop talking, and cell phones set to vibrate in order for everyone to get the most out of the film.

It's no different with physical universe lifetimes. We are all immersed in an illusory experience of our own creation; yet we play out our subjective illusions within the same "theater" -- the physical universe. In order for us to get the most out of each life lesson, we have to focus completely on the illusion. This is why it's so difficult to detect, communicate with, and/or travel to non-physical realms. To have provable evidence of existence beyond the physical would undoubtedly be a DISTRACTION to us, and hence detract from impact of our illusory physical experience.

And what would be better evidence that our physical lives are illusory than personal memory of past lives and our non-physical reality in-between them? There are too many distractions already just here in the physical universe that constantly try to pull our focus away from our life purpose. Your waking ego self may not understand the logic of this, but your higher self knows that your spiritual growth and evolution will progress much faster the more you can focus on each individual life lesson. Therefore, all of us, through our higher selves, agree to wear these "spiritual blinders" if you will, during our earthly lives in order to enhance the experience for the better.

Most people don't remember the first few years of their physical life, yet nobody questions whether or not they were born or existed during those years they cannot remember. Just because you don't remember something, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Neither does it mean the memories don't exist. People with amnesia are constantly blocking out memories for all sorts of reasons, and then re-remembering them for as many reasons more.

And what is so hard to believe about reincarnation? We mimic this process in our own educational system every day. Only instead of lifetimes, we call them "classes." Achieving new levels of enlightenment, we call "graduating" to a higher grade level. We don't think of students as being "recycled" through the school system. Even kids who must repeat a grade are not thought of in this manner. We all know that repeating a grade is because the student failed to meet certain goals required for advancement. By your thinking, we should simply throw such children out of school and fill their seat with new students every year.

Nor is there any reason why reincarnating souls and "new" souls cannot occupy the same universe. What is to prevent God from multiplying his consciousness ad infinitum in order to keep up with the need for new souls to inhabit a growing population of physical entities?

I would submit that you either need to be more open-minded to these concepts; or perhaps you're not quite ready to hear them, and should go and focus on your physical life for now rather than continue to go around and around in circles on sites such as this. One thing I can guarantee is that you won't find many people who have "bought into" these concepts showing up at "atheist" sites looking for others to talk them out of their current beliefs.

~ RS
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