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Old 01-11-2007, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by spirited View Post
I am sure most of you will have heared of this study: Long-Awaited Medical Study Questions the Power of Prayer
How do IM believers explain those results?
Fairly easy to explain. You had a conscious or subconscious intention to find an article that casts doubt on something like IM and so you found this study.

The study itself is flawed from my perspective because it doesn't take into account the intentions of the family of the person or even the PERSON themselves!

For example, if someone suffers from a low self image and doesn't feel like they are worth it,and they feel like their life is a waste of time, and thus they consume craploads of junk food, smoke etc. and don't care about their future they will manifest corinary disease. To think that someone (strangers) outside of that person can come in and override that person's intentions by praying for them is kind of rediculous.

The reason they had to do it with strangers is because they wouldn't be able to tell the family of a person NOT TO PRAY for them just to do a study because nobody would let their loved ones die for a study like this. The researchers had to assume that family members that care about a person will pray regardless whether they tell them to or not. No way to tell if someone is praying since it's in your head.

Where does the study show how many of the patients prayed for themselves before and after surgery?

Where does the study show which of the paitents had family praying for them?

All I can tell you is this. If I was ill I would pray for myself and would welcome any and all positive prayer from loved ones or strangers on my behalf, regardless of what this or any other study shows.

I can't remember where I read this, but there is a doctor somewhere who did some research with his cancer patients and found that over 75% of them had consitent thoughts of ending their life over the last 12 months before developing that cancer. That was their intention. They probably weren't thinking cancer, but more like 'I hate my life.' or 'Life sucks.' etc.

Man, if you could hook up a loudspeaker to people's brains so you could hear the thoughts they are thinking it would probably blow you away just how much negative thinking goes on in people's brains. It's horrifying how much negativing most people think of. I used to know a kid in school that would hit his fist against his forehead and say "I'm so STUPID, I'm so STUPID!" and like tense all his muscles in his body whenever he got one wrong on a math test. Like the teacher would hand out the tests and he would get 34 out of 35 and he would start pounding his head for like 20 seconds. We all thought he was wacked, but I bet 90% of the room was THINKING the same thoughts, just not vocalizing them.

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