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Old 01-11-2007, 11:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
eternomi
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Originally Posted by Athena View Post
wow very interesting point! So it seems like there's still some 'binder' or conglomerative force, in our bodies, so may be the same for our spirits.
This is the part that is challenging me. It is a chicken-egg problem.

If everything is within consciousness, why don't I remember before birth? The answers posted on here so far don't really answer this for me. "You are all knowing in essence" does not quite cut it for me. If I knew, I would know. If I don't, then I don't. It is that simple for me.

In a similar line of thought, let's consider the DNA. DNA is all-knowing with regards to your body. But some invisible force guides it to a point where you have individualized cells and organs that form the body.They all interpret the same DNA in a unique way and organize themselves into different structures. Just because each organ and each cell has the all-knowing DNA, does that mean they are really all-knowing themselves? Is unaccessed -therefore unknown- wisdom/knowledge/information really worth anything? Does a heart know what it is to be like a brain? Could it replace it? Could it ever become one? What made it into a heart in the first place? Will it ever learn how to access the DNA in a way to make a brain out of itself? Is it perhaps happy being a heart?

If, on the other hand, consciousness is within or the result of a body, does it ever become larger (metaphorically speaking) than the body? Can you ignore the body where the consciousness developed and say the consciousness envelops the body even though it came from it?

I don't quite buy the "you signed a contract and forgot who you are before you were born" deal. In such a rich environment (I am not talking just at the human scale), "recycling souls" seems very unlikely. I am more aligned with the "everything is created brand new, and never recycled" concept. I also don't buy into the "when you die, you will re-remember what you made yourself to forget". Dying can't be a simple cop out like that. If you want proof, birth into this body did not reveal anything we did not know earlier either! If dying is birth into another body, perhaps birth into this body was death from another one. Clearly the death/birth combo is no guarantee you will learn anything new when you are born to the other side although you will have new experiences for sure.

About people remembering their past lives.... My theory is that, the DNA stores a lot more information than we know how to decode. It is quite possible that generations worth of history is encoded there and some people knowingly or unknowingly manage to decode it and remember it as if it is their own history.. Well in a way, it is.. This of course assumes the "the body came before the consciousness" view.

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