[seeker5]

Originally Posted by straysweeper

Seeker,

Hi Straysweeper good to hear from you again

I think I can really relate to this, as by reading your post I can almost feel my own pain hiding right beneath the eyes. I have also been directing the pain into other activities such as amine, games, tv, and sleep. These bandages hold back the flood.

Yeah, and I experienced this phonema and maybe you do too that when the flood accumulates, then it forces the bandade out and then it's worst then if I had dealt with it earlier.

All men’s miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone. ~ Blaise Pascal

Learn to be silent.
Let your quiet mind listen and absorb.
PYTHAGORAS

Those are good quotes. That's probably another reason for all those distractions we sometimes engage in - because we can't deal with the thoughts we're having.

I love quotes if you can't tell

Hehe yup

The Pain of a Valley can awaken you to a truth you've been ignoring.
The way you see the problem is the problem.
The way out of a valley appears when you learn to see things differently.
What is the truth about the situation? Use reality as your friend. See it as it is, but not worse than it is.

Yes, very very very much so! This intense pain woke me up to something that was a big problem in my life and while I was surfaced aware of it, I hadn't dealt with the root to the degree I am now. I am seeing things very differently too. I'm grateful for that intense pain, while it seemed like hell at the time, to wake me up.

But overall, I recommend, going someplace to be alone, with no distractions, and maybe take a long a few really good, probing questions.

Thanks for the suggestion. I've been doing that, where I'm alone and I'm journalling what my thoughts are and it's helped a good bit to realize what was happening.

Another thing that has helped me lately is to forgive myself. For not yet being exceptional in the eyes of the world, as I wish to be. For not being financially free, successful, perfect/ideal relationship, fit and healthy, whatever else I think should be different from what it is now.

Good idea! I know I'm way too judgemental toward myself and I've had two people tell me that this week, and I agree with them.

Its tough, and I wish you well. If you find something that helps and works for you, I'd welcome it.

Thanks

I've been working through Kathie Byron's book, and it's been awesome and very helpful. Analyzing my thoughts and what caused the pain is really good. I've gained an amazing level of clarity of what my thoughts and beliefs are doing. I also saw my amazing and wonderful shrink yesterday and it helped so much.