[The Animus]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

No one is claiming reality is subjective. Steve is presenting subjective reality as a useful lens with which to perceive reality. We have both found it to be an extremely powerful lens, but you are free to choose the lens by which you would like to perceive reality and you'll get the results that go with it.

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

So how can I know that subjective reality is real?

Change your beliefs, and then watch the physical universe itself change to become congruent with them.

Science and history, past and future, and all your memories exist within your consciousness. You manifested them. If you believe it can’t be true, then it can’t.

Science is based on the presupposition that objective reality exists. The whole notion of an objective observer stems from that assumption. But this assumption is unprovable and may therefore be erroneous. From a subjective standpoint, the belief in objectivity is what manifests all the laws and discoveries of science. To drop that belief is to make it possible to violate the seemingly untouchable laws of science.


Why does the physical universe seem so stable then?

It seems stable because you believe it to be stable. You allow your perceptions to feed your thoughts instead of taking more direct control over your thoughts..

Neither your actions nor your results are congruent with this belief system. Subjective reality was presented as a mode of of thinking, and a valid stable model of reality does not switch or discard a false 'lens' at will. If this model were even valid as a transplant, then you would not be having these issues.

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

And might I comment on the tone with which you posted your original comment. Somewhat confrontational no? It didn't seem to me as if you truly wanted to understand but instead were seeking to discredit something you either don't understand or don't want to believe is real. You will get what you expect. You will see what you expect to see. Be careful to make sure that what you expect is what you really want, because you will surely get it.

The original post is simply pointing out the incongruity between your and Steve's teachings and your actions. Why are you perceiving it as confrontational?

If a teacher says listen to what I have to say and how to live life, but is neither living it that way themselves, nor showing positive results in those areas, how can what they teach be true? To maintain and disseminate such false systems of belief neither benefits themselves, nor the people to whom it is taught.

You and Steve should investigate what parts of reality you are holding and teaching are false, rather than continue to spread the false teachings.


Instead, you turned the comment into a personal issue, rather than addressing the issue that was raised.