[yoopersmith]

Originally Posted by Maguru

ok, so consciousness 'just is' when unmanifested and cannot change at all. It is without form and even without energy.

That's what I think.

So are you without form and energy right now? If you do have form and energy, then consciousness has changed and you are contradicting yourself. Why do you attempt to be sarcastic? You either are or you aren't. This is the opening to the rabbit hole.

I AM conscious...I HAVE Form...form is like possessions...issness is state of being. I am consciousness...I HAVE everything else...like a body and stuff and a job, and roles...yada yada..

I meant that I was trying to be sarcastic...and you missed it (?) and therefore my "attempt" at sarcasm failed...Not everything I say is meant to be sarcastic...just the bad jokes

Nice opening...Where's Morpheus?

I said all this:

"Sorry...didn't mean to dismiss you...just lame attempts at humor. I don't deny your dark side...we all have a dark side...I love yours and mine...

...NICE is my preferred mode...it works for me...I guess I need work embracing my "dark side".

...I'm not sure what I am afraid of...not the biggies...I don't fear death...perhaps I fear success (maybe?), or losing my wife...again I don't think about what I am afraid of that much...."

You said

Isn't that enough?

Isn't What enough...enough to be afraid of...I don't presume to be totally without fear...but I have come some way to facing quiet a few...I'm sure there is more fear to come...all part of the earth gig...

I am attempting to push your negative buttons but you resist with sarcasm and humour. But you are correct in that I am getting to know you a little better. I hope you get to know yourself better too. I'm sure we will both like you. Down the rabbit hole.........What is underneath the sarcasm and wit?

Yeah...I get you trying to get a rise out of me...would you prefer me to just shoot from the hip more and not really consider your feelings before I respond...I tried that in the beginning and I ended up saying I'm sorry

You really can't push my buttons much...but you can make me think, the only button you could push that would make me a little sad would be the "tah tah" button...

I don't know what's under the sarcasm and wit...fear, loathing, childhood stuff, repressed memories...all manner of ickiness....and LOVE, light, compassion...hmmm I might be a human being...or just BEING HUMAN...not sure really.

Now the question is can you put your money where your mouth is?

Where is my mouth and how much is this going to cost??? I guess we will find the proof in the pudding.


CHEERS!

Yoops