[yoopersmith]

Originally Posted by Maguru

I am still mad but I couldn't resist. If there are other paths, why can't we choose them?

We can choose the other paths...did I say, we could choose the other paths?...If I did, I was wrong.

Cop out?

Totally a cop out...and I was trying to be funny (ick!). Fundamentally you think that my assertion that "I am consciousness" is a less solid belief foundation than thinking that "I am form" (i.e. a body, a human being, made of matter...et al).

Ok...well of course, I don't KNOW in a way that can be proved objectively, so I concede the point up front...sure this might be a shaking foundation...even more shaky than thinking that I am form.

Here is why I choose consciousness rather than form.

Form is temporary, and changes. Bodies die...planets go cold...stars go NOVA...all matter is energy and nothing is destroyed...but all forms are in a constant state of flux....that sounds shaky.

Consciousness is un-manifest (I hope!)...therefore without FORM or energy and therefore does not change at all...it just IS...

...aware...alive...consciousness...

...since I believe that there is only ONE consciousness...and I am conscious...I must be part of the whole of consciousness.

This to me seems less shaky than being form.

Which part of you is this? So you don't want to go further down the rabbit hole because you feel great?

Not sure which part...I guess the part that still believes I am in a body and really wants to lose weight and have more fun. <humor>

Sorry, I definitely want to live down the rabbit hole...I eat the red pill for breakfast everyday!<humor...but really I want to go to the bottom of the rabbit hole!>

I don't feel great, if I did, that would be better though....I was attempting sarcasm...didn't work.

In humanities' experience, duality is, always was and always will be. It does not age. Only perceptions of them change. To exclude one is to exclude the other. Acceptance of both as equals would naturally create unity, the one you dismissed.

Wow I screwed that one up...I will have to type <sarcastic remark>...

Yeah...I failed to use sarcasm to make your point above....humanity's experience is perceived through duality...I was attempting sarcasm again with the "nah" on unity...text is hard to get sarcasm through...sorry about that...

...I CONCUR!!! with the statement above.

I feel you dismiss me too. You dismiss my negative aspects. Why do you deny my dark side? Why are you being so nice? What are you afraid of? Does the content mean nothing to you? Is it truly just to hone your skills? Do I not know you at all? Maybe not, but one thing I know is this communication has helped me to better know myself.

Sorry...didn't mean to dismiss you...just lame attempts at humor. I don't deny your dark side...we all have a dark side...I love yours and mine...

...NICE is my preferred mode...it works for me...I guess I need work embracing my "dark side".

...I'm not sure what I am afraid of...not the biggies...I don't fear death...perhaps I fear success (maybe?), or losing my wife...again I don't think about what I am afraid of that much....

...oh...I am afraid of ever being trapped and tortured...that would suck...

The content is secondary in my mind to the goal of helping me (and you) growth into more conscious people.

Honing the skills is secondary to the above goal as well.

You know some of me...there's that word KNOW again. <grin>

I feel the same way about this communication...you are very adept at making me think, consider and express my beliefs...that helps me and you I guess as well.

Insanity is not in the darkness. Insanity is denying it.

Well said...I am all for acceptance over denial...why deny or reject what IS...right?...there is darkness...let's accept it.

CHEERS!

Yoops