[yoopersmith]

Originally Posted by Maguru

Why seek a truth you believe is unfathomable? You are choosing to believe something that you cannot know is true. Why?

WOW! That is the best question EVAR!!! To be honest this question scared me a little bit...it made me a little restless...this might take a while...tuck in:

The first thing that came to mind is ... ummmm, I already said I "don't know"...but you are trying to understand why I choose to embrace and find peace in "NOT KNOWING" a truth.

...when put that way...it doesn't make sense...so I had to ask myself again, and this brought up some fear...maybe I am wrong? What is this fear? So I meditated on it.

Then I watched some videos that I like that I find inspiration in...Then, I experienced some peace for a moment and went to bed...

When I awoke, I came up with several answers for you to try on...none of them are very good...but I will do my best.

First I thought, "that's what all the teachers say, and I agree with them"...so I was just regurgitating there...that's no good.

Then I remembered a passage from "The seeker's guided" that I will paraphrase...the truth is always out in front of you just on the edge of the horizon that keeps you moving forward in your journey...still icky...

I also thought about the poem "Ithaca" by Homer...you can read it...Ithaca is an island that the heroes had to travel to...but the poem suggests that you need not rush to the end but enjoy the ride...i.e....it's about the journey and not the destination....ok...better...but not it.

These all still kinda stink, but hold on, you might the last bits...

The truth as I choose to believe can't be "known" as a concept and kept as a belief...so my belief is a concept that I use to "point" me back and remind me of an experience that I believe is as close to the truth that I have come to...

I will use words to describe the experience I had...I think you said you have had this experience too...the bottom line of the experience is that truth isn't a concept to know...the truth is the truest part of my being...or the true ME.

When I experience what I believe to be "the truth"...the universe blinks out of existence in my mind...it's all gone...it's just peace, stillness, aliveness...just pure being.

The truth is...outside time...but those are just concepts...I forget those...

so...why??? is that SO COOL and comforting?

This truth is outside of perceptions...there is no past or future...no requirements of living, no judgments, no work, no comparison, no pain, no living and dieing, no loss, no seeking, no wanting, no needs...just still restful peace...alive and aware....while I experience truth...I rest in the fact that I am complete NOW and forever...without need.

...I dig that stuff...and it helps me sleep.

That probably still is stinky, but I haven't written a book about this stuff (close with this thread!), so what the hell do I know.

I think you are projecting yourself on to me and I am reflecting your light with my darkness or else you would not be able to see your light.

We are good at reflecting each other...I remember asking the universe to send me someone to question everything I say to help me learn how to write...thanks for showing up...it's working!!!

If light needs a source then is it everlasting? If darkness (that you say doesn't exist) does not have a source, would it be everlasting.
The arguments you make in support of 'light being real and darkness not existing' are almost identical to those you use for 'love and fear'.
They are one and the same, just different sides of the coin. They are co-dependant. Fear exists as the polarity to love and darkness exists as a polarity to light. You are choosing one over the other. It's just a choice, not a reality.

Of course you are right...metaphors only go so far...then they far apart....that's the way of concepts.

Hey...there is dark matter and dark energy, so that must be what you are made of...seems like there might be more darkness in the universe than light...it's like darkness is the canvas and light is the paint, you need both to see the picture in the painting.

Ah, here's the evidence...........

You expose me...<blush>

Have fun!

Always try to have fun...I forget sometimes...thanks for the reminder.

So am I. I just want to know what yours is? Did I push a button? Kind Regards,

You pushed several buttons...very nicely done...I hoped you get some insight out the answer to the best question...if this stuff were easy to write about there would be gurus living on the street giving it away for free...

Love, feed, serve...

Yoops