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Originally Posted by Angela Maybe you're right -- that the two issues are intertwined. |
I really think they are, even if we stick to discussion of only one side of it here

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Originally Posted by Angela And if a man believes that a baby's rights trump its mothers -- that a woman does not have the right to choose whether or not to continue a pregnancy -- then for that man to put his penis anywhere near the vagina of a woman who believes otherwise is the epitome or irresponsibility. |
I think this is why I still, even though I've gotten over religious guilt about sex, have a real nervousness around casual encounters. You don't know enough at that point to decide whether or not your values and desires are compatible when it comes to kids, and it's too easy to lie just to get to the sex part. It would be nice if no one did that, but it certainly happens. And then people wonder why they have to deal with such a mess!
I wonder if we'll ever get to a point where we are comfortable saying "I am pro-choice and do not want to have a child" at last call at the bar. OR "I am against abortion and do not think a woman has a right to terminate my child if I don't want her to." While I certainly agree that in serious relationships or marriages this should be well discussed and agreed upon prior, I just don't see it happening with casual sex. Maybe there are people who do this, but I can imagine getting laughed at and passed over for a drunker, less straightforward woman. I guess that would be in my favor anyway though, so good

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