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Originally Posted by Joshiepoo3000 Moses was not wrong, because wrong is evil. Evil is decreasing the value of a human being. |
Comments of this ilk are what rankles, in a nutshell. The underlying message: "You are wrong (not to believe in god) and therefore evil, and therefore your value as a human being is less than mine." Joshiepoo, perhaps you don't mean to convey that, but it sure is a message that believers browbeat nonbelievers with. Joshiepoo, pardon my bluntness, but your communication style feels like browbeating to me.
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Originally Posted by Joshiepoo3000 I do not understand the connection between Lot and Moses that you are talking about. Can you clarify? Forgive me for not understanding. |
The connection beween Lot and Moses (and the Laws and the story of the concubine that gets sent out in lieu of traveler and gets herself boofed to death) is that these are all IN THE BIBLE which you stated you took literally, every bit. The bible emphatically implies that Lot did the right thing by offering up his daughters out in order to save the angels, and the bible nowhere indicates anything to refute that. Also, the bible
nowhere states that you shouldn't take Moses's laws literally for any reason. (Lot's daughters mercifully survived and were able to later have sex with Lot, but the traveler's concubine was not so lucky. Boofed to death.)
My point is: if you say you take every bit of the bible literally, and consider yourself to live by its word, then you are in favor of killing children, sacrificing your daughters' lives (and orifices!) for strangers', and stoning to death anyone who rejects belief in christian god. If you try to have it both ways, "it's literal AND it's subject to interpretation," your argument is too slippery to take into serious consideration and, I believe, is subject to being ridiculed. If you take the point of view that it's all literal, then you're either a hypocrite or a psychopath, and if you tell me it's all subject to interpretation, then you beg the question: WHOSE?
My point is: the bible is a bunch of baloney.