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Originally Posted by Murphy  Sorry Johnny but my definition of a "pick up artist" is anyone who is actively trying to get better with women, so therefore you are one. |
Actually, I actively and constantly try to become better with
PEOPLE, and therefore your definition of "Pick Up Artist" does not apply to me.
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Originally Posted by Murphy If your definition is someone who uses manipulation and deceit then I am not one of those. |
In that case, you are NOT a "Pick Up Artist" - and good for you!
I urge you to read & consider my definition again, before you defend the indefensible and, frankly, make yourself less credible.
HERE:
A 'Pick Up Artist' is ultimately a 'Con Artist' in the arena of the sexual predator Quote:
Originally Posted by Murphy I already answered the question of how many girls I've slept with. 18. And I'd consider half of them to be hot. |
Well, you've got me beat... I certainly haven't slept with as many as 9 women I didn't find hot.
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Originally Posted by Murphy The reason most guys don't have the goal of sleeping with a lot of hot women is because - even though they'd love to do it - they think it would be to hard for them to accomplish, so they don't try. |
[SIGH]
Mr Murphy, there are elements of truth to what you're saying, for most people; as I posted
HERE, it is completely normal for ego-afflicted people to believe that some people are 'out of their league' - and therefore they won't engage with them.
@Steve: Where you issued your mock-challenge:
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You think it takes balls to approach a woman on the street and start a conversation? To get her into bed and have sex? Gimme a break! Even my daughter can overcome approach anxiety.
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It is important to accept and appreciate that
FOR MANY, there is
nothing close to as terrifying as would be attempting to engage in flirtatious conversation with a stranger they find sexually attractive.
Your own lack of compunction in this area is outstanding, and far from normal. I'm sure you've instilled sufficient personal social acceptance in your daughter that she would not hesitate to engage with someone interesting to her - but I'm also confident that you've lovingly warned her against engaging with unknown 'Grown Ups'. I suspect her ability to reconcile the two messages will be very challenging as she enters her teen-years!
For many, this fear of casual, playful, light social interaction is crippling. The very notion that
someone might not mind being approached, inconceivable. (And yes, the word means what I think it means
I have had to address and conquer this issue with countless
extremely highly-powered and effective clients (senior Fortune 500 executives, famous athletes, musicians, actors & other celebrities, as well as respected and accomplished professionals of all varieties) and I'm confident when I say that before working through it, ANY of them would more-willingly shoplift something from a store I might point out across the street, than begin a conversation with an attractive stranger I might point out standing in front of that store.
Such is the paralyzing power of societies inhibition towards socialization - and it must be BROKEN, in most people's cases. (This goes for BOTH genders, straights AND gays alike.)
@Murphy, returning to your quote:
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The reason most guys don't have the goal of sleeping with a lot of hot women is because - even though they'd love to do it - they think it would be to hard for them to accomplish, so they don't try.
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While there is some truth, there's way more 'logical fallacy' and 'projecting' taking place in your comment.
MOST GUYS don't have "sleeping with a lot of hot women" as their goal because accomplishing it GAINS NOTHING.
There's no "THERE" there!
Contrast this with goals such as "living a happy life", "accepting myself", "earning the love and respect of people I love and respect", and you'll see that there's no payoff in investing time in pursuits like chasing hotties for sport.
Ultimately, the only payoff most guys get out of actually learning to "bring hot women to bed", is discovering that it doesn't matter,
except if you need to impress other guys.
And that if you're still worried about what other guys think, you've got much more critical goals to set for yourself!
Johnny Soporno
Worthy Playboy