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Old 01-30-2009, 06:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I agree that the seduction community has some good people in it, and studying some PUA material can help people make progress on their personal growth. It's definitely not all bad. Often the marketing messages are worse than the material behind them.

Johnny Soporno and Zan Perrion are examples of the light side of the seduction community. I've hung out with both of them and consider them friends. Their style isn't about racking up bedpost notches and treating women like objects. They have a lot of respect for women, and the women they're with seem quite happy about it. Their focus is on being authentic in expressing one's sexuality and not hiding the fact that we're all sexual beings. They're both very intelligent people as well. I had one conversation with Johnny that lasted nearly 8 hours straight.

It's hard to make blanket statements about the seduction community as a whole because it has so many different facets. Everyone's experience with it is unique. Some men enjoy awesome transformations -- building the courage to be authentic and comfortable in their own skin. Other men devolve into social robots or become very weird and manipulative.

The authentic guys are really awesome. I've spent many, many hours talking to such people face-to-face. IMO the creepy social robots tend to be found more often among the perpetual students. All of the teachers I've met in this community have seemed very authentic to me, although I haven't met that many of them yet -- about 8 so far.
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