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Originally Posted by Frans  If I identify myself with this human body (my avatar), I think that I have free will, that I can change my future (through I-M, for example  ).
However, I know that I'm not that body, that in reality I am the manipulator of that body, that I have chosen that body to experience human life.
I know that I have no choices than to follow my pathway in this "life game", but this makes my life so interesting: I don't care what the future will bring, it's part of the game.
That's the reason why I deliberately don't want to use I-M.
Everything is predetermined by the "game developer" and whether that game developer and the game player is the same person, that's up to you to decide.  |
What about this theory:
Although the game is an RPG and the data for it is originally stored on a disk, what if there is a central "server" which serves the data to multiple avatars, like for example in the case of Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games? I play a game called World of Warcraft, so I'll use that as an example. THe game is installed on my hard drive, but when I go to play it the game loads from my hard drive but then connects to a server which hosts the reality I'm in. I then play my Avatar which the server hosts. The avatar has certain attributes, skills, weapons, armor, alliances, awards, a rank, level of experience, $ in the form of gold coins, objects etc. Now, in that game, there are also millions of others that connect to this server, and they too have an avatar that plays in this world on this server and interacts with my avatar.
Although the game was developed by some game developers, so the number of possibilities are limited, because of the sheer number of players, skills and attributes you can get in the game, the possible combination of avatars is crazy huge. The game has an economy, an auction house, etc. It's basically a little version copy of real life, like a mini-Matrix thing.
Now, your point is that when I play Warcraft, my avatar thinks that he is in charge of the game and has free will, while it actually ME who is in charge of the game using my keyboard and mouse, however his little brain could make him think he's actually the avatar and playing the game. Therefore, your thinking is that there is no point in using IM at the avatar level, because the REAL YOU will override everything anyways and make you do what IT wants, not what the avatar wants.
The way I look at it is that insted of saying "I am the avatar." in which case identifying with the avatar's mind, I prefer to think that "WE are the avatar." meaning a combination of MY thinking combined with my avatar's thinking. (Spirit + Ego). The two of us get stuff done in this reality running on this server. When balanced out, these two are an unstoppable force, but when EGO tries to take over control, he ends up in failure. Imagine playing a role playing game where the character doesn't want to do what you're telling him to do via keyboard/mouse. You tell him to go up, and he runs left. You tell him to run left, he sits down. This is where the EGO/SPIRIT or YOU/AVATAR are out of wack.
So, the question you should ask yourself in this case is WHO is refusing to use IM, your AVATAR or YOU? Your Spirit or your Ego. If you believe it is EGO that wants to use IM to screw over Spirit, your assumption would be correct, however what if it is your Spirit (your real self) that wants to use IM to manifest things into your Avatars (ego's) world. Then, by refusing to use IM, you're not co-operating with the real you.
If you believe that the real you, your spirit (whatever you want to call it), is capable of creating the thoughs you think of, wouldn't it be your spirits thoughts that originally brought you to learn about IM and on this forum about IM?
Personally, I really don't see IM as a tool for EGO to use as a weapon against REAL SELF. In my life I"ve had times when I've acted and done stuff that I could tell were not in line with my spirit, when my ego seemed to take over, and they felt like crap inside afterwords. There have been a lot of times also when I felt totally connected with spirit and I *KNEW* I was on the right track. WHenever I use IM, I feel connected, not disconnected from Spirit. If you're feeling disconnected to your spirit when using IM, perhaps maybe you're right. Maybe you SHOULDN'T use IM at this point in your life, maybe there are lessons you still haven't learned in this game before you're "supposed" to find IM. Maybe we're all supposed to discover IM on our own from life experience, but the Internet and Self-Development books have been giving us "cheat sheets" to get to the next level.