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Old 01-07-2007, 12:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Antarananda View Post
Have you ever meditated for an extended period of time, yourself?
Yes. I have experience with meditation. I can enter the so called thoughtless state easily but I am questioning its existence.

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When you enter into a state of emptiness (no-thought), you don't experience or can even observe thought or emotion.
This implies that there is an observer. I'm saying that there is no such thing because you are your thoughts. There is nothing else there.

What you call a peaceful mind to me is just an emotion. It happens when your internal dialogue stops. Suddenly there is quietness in your head and you're filled with peace. For me it is just a state of listening to the body, it's a feeling.
Feelings and emotions to me are also thoughts. So you cannot escape this. Why would you?
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