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Originally Posted by Rocket Surgery  The only LOGICAL thing for God to do next was CREATE an environment for himself that would allow him to GROW and LEARN.
~ RS |
I get you. This just reminds me of discussions I've had in the past, like, "ok so he wanted to grow and learn.....so why would he want to be a victim of child abuse? Or be born with a handicap? Or...(insert anything that is negative about the world or involves pain/suffering). I'm sure there's plenty of that on this forum already, don't really need to get into another discussion like that.
It just seems that, in my own mind, the "further" back I go, like Big Bang, and what may or may have not been there before, it seems the vastness of reality, is so much bigger than "and he wanted to experience "IT" , therefore Saturn exists and it has several moons" or "black holes exist, and so does ketchup".
It seems that no matter how you look at this, it ends up with humans being on top of the heap, and the inevitable result of a pre-determined idea of God. Which in my mind makes the years and years of evolution, seem very messy and haphazard, coming from an all-knowing being. Why not just make humans from thin air? Well if you believe in the Bible, that's what he did.
I guess from my perspective, I see humans as a result of evolution, and we have consciousness. It's very possible that with our level of consciousness, we are indeed interacting with and influencing "all that is" with our thoughts. Reading the storys of IM, like you with your picture frame example, and the things I've experienced, lead me to think there is something very real happening here.
But I don't necessarily see it as "on purpose", like it's possible that if kangaroos had evolved instead, and gone through all the misteps and mutations that could have led to conscious thought, they would be here typing about these topics on the kangaroo internet.
I know I'm getting off track here. Seems like my perspective changes from day to day, just trying to clarify things for myself.
