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Old 01-20-2009, 02:21 AM   #18 (permalink)
Anagogy
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Reality is how the world actually is. Perception is how we gain knowledge of reality.
How do you know reality is separate from perception? You can't jump outside your own experience to experience "true objectivity". Everything you have ever observed has been through the lens of your perception. Maybe the picture you are seeing is inside the lens, rather than outside it.

Just a thought.

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So soul is synonymous with awareness? Ergo, 'I soul that I have a body' is equivalent to 'I am aware that I have a body'?
I don't understand what you're getting at right here.

Even if the concept of a soul is synonymous with awareness, it doesn't mean the dictionary usage of the word has changed.

I was simply trying to explain a possible union between two seemingly separate concepts, those concepts being what in common parlance is called a "soul" and what is called "awareness". It seems most people believe one is an aspect of the other. I believe that they are one and the same. If you want to believe something different, be my guest.

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So "individuated soul" is synonymous to being aware of oneself? Ergo, when I sleep I am not "individuated soul", but when I awake I am "individuated soul"?
That's a distinct possibility.

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What are your reasons for this conclusion? Without reasoning this is just metaphysical speculation, and thus we should "commit it then to the flames".
My reasons for that conclusion are from years of studying various books and spiritual material, and my own personal meditative introspection, or intuition in other words. There is a logic to my reasoning, but its doubtful my logic is the same as your logic, as logic is a system of thought dependent on definitions and conclusions, which are oftentimes very different from person to person, especially when it comes to ontological, metaphysical, and epistemological issues.

So from your perspective, all metaphysical speculation is pointless? That's interesting.
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