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All eastern philosophies talk about a thoughtless state. They tell you that you are somehow separated from your thoughts and you can shut them down. Through practices of meditation and awareness you can gain a higher level of being, enlightenment being the highest form of mental functioning.

I would like to question that and invite you to a discussion.

What is this thoughtless state everybody is talking about? I've come to a realization of how absurd this concept is.
Anyone that has been practicing meditation feels what it is like and has an idea where to go with it. It feels very peaceful and blissful and you have a desire to maintain that state. But is this experience what we are looking for? Is there anything like no-thought?

How do you know you are in thoughtless state?
The moment you look at your thoughts you are thinking! There is no way you can look at thoughts without thinking. The observer, in my oppinion, is an illusion. Thought is all there is. If thought ends, you come to an end. You die. When you experience the illusion of thoughtless state there is something there. You are actually remembering something, you are thinking.

What is thought anyway? Is there any way of looking at thought? How can you separate yourself from thought? And why do people buy this concept and make self-proclaimed gurus rich in an going cycle of search for the ultimate bliss that takes on since the beginning of humankind?

So, let's discredit 1000 years of eastern philosophy here or prove me that it is not an illusion.