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Old 01-16-2009, 10:09 PM   #151 (permalink)
magi13
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Morning Brutha,
This is a great site. I am considering a memory course (including pmemory), and am really interested in your comments above. I have little interest in spending 100+ hours to become a card-remembering freakshow, but would love to be able to retain knowledge, particularly when trying to cross reference between books I read, and therefore be able to make connections / construct arguments which, if I were to rely on piles of notes, I could never do.

So to you (and anyone else) I have the following questions:
1) Are you saying you reckon 1% of people who have done memory courses use them in real life, or that you reckon 1% of the population use memory techniques in their lives?
2) Does this ever become unconscious? I would say that many learned skills can become unconscious at a basic level, but the oft used analogy of working out is the opposite: you have to keep struggling on if you want to stay in shape.
3) Linked to the above, how much of a real-life distration is the remembering part, (ie are you constantly staring off into the distance trying to visualise, peg, create stories while the rest of the conversation is happening)?
4) Where is it most useful? Is it just that you dont have to look for your car keys any more, or can you start to see links between information that you would otherwise have not?

Could anyone replying just let me know if they have an interest in a memory improvement company.

The cost of the course is pretty large, but the opportunity cost of 100+ hours is HUGE, so all responses much appreciated.

ps Ive just had a kid and can confidently say that the quickest and cheapest was if improving your memory instantly is to give up alcohol. I anticipate this will last about two weeks.
Tony Buzan <-- good system for the very general overview - Mindmap scribd.com
Harry Lorayne <-- His link system started it all. You can find his books online for free at scribd.com
Dominic O'brien <-- Has a sweet and very effective memory system his book is also listed in scribd.com Just type their names at the search option.

If you have time to read these are free sources, now all that's left for you is to practice it.

The simplest instructions I've seen online are found here if you don't want to read books. (No need to be instructed)

Learn Memory Techniques - Memorise.org

Good luck, it's for his future too. Wish I learned this things when I was younger hehe.

xxx
1) Are you saying you reckon 1% of people who have done memory courses use them in real life, or that you reckon 1% of the population use memory techniques in their lives?

Answer:

It's just that in real life you can use a little note pad or organizer instead of relying on your memory.

2) Does this ever become unconscious? I would say that many learned skills can become unconscious at a basic level, but the oft used analogy of working out is the opposite: you have to keep struggling on if you want to stay in shape.

You have to review things in order for it to become a part of your permanent memory. (spaced repetition)

practice makes perfect


3) Linked to the above, how much of a real-life distration is the remembering part, (ie are you constantly staring off into the distance trying to visualise, peg, create stories while the rest of the conversation is happening)?

Yes you can do it with constant practice, sometimes it's automatic

4) Where is it most useful? Is it just that you dont have to look for your car keys any more, or can you start to see links between information that you would otherwise have not?

Memory techniques are applicable on things you desire to memorize. ^^ So it's applicable on anything.

On the topic of Pmemory <-- it's not a scam, only that it's not original. Everyone copied Dominic O'brien when he revived the method of Loci

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