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Old 01-12-2009, 02:48 PM   #208 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by John Freestone View Post
Well I do and it is. You have even demonstrated in the above your own inconsistency by requiring that there is an absolute reality about what you did or did not say, and I have got it wrong. You prefer another, the relative, viewpoint, when the same is pointed out about your interpretation of my sentences. Then there is no absolute reality, and you're free to construe whatever you want.

Slipping from one perspective to another is inconsistency.
Maybe you missed ALG's posts about 1) relative truth and 2) suppleness vs. inconsistency? He explained these concepts so well! Perhaps they'll help you understand what I'm trying to say -- if you are at all interested in understanding me, that is!

I don't believe my thoughts are The Truth, but linguistic convention calls for me to express them as if they were. I pepper my posts with phrases like "I believe" and "I think" but it would be terribly tedious and not as much fun to read if I was always adding, "..but that's not The Absolute, Objective Truth."

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I express different feelings at different times. I'm human. If someone is angry with you and says "There's no point talking to you!", do you actually expect that they will never talk to you again?
If someone tells me that there is no point in talking to me, I will not expect them to never talk to me again, because in fact, they would be talking to me in the present moment, when they said, "there's no point in talking to you, Angela!" Since you are still talking to me, it looks like there is indeed a point to talking to me. Do you know what that point is?

Were you angry with me? Doesn't it strike you as an opportunity to learn something about yourself that you find yourself getting angry or exasperated or upset because I don't think the way you want me to think? It doesn't mean anything about me if you feel angry; you can't change me, but you can change your thoughts.

So you're not always logically consistent in conversation, huh? Sometimes you're just emotionally expressive.

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I think I will be gone from here soon. I don't want this to be a parting shot and if there are loose ends, I'm happy to discuss them, but I don't feel that I want to continue discussing our various philosophies here, where it seems there is one correct philosophy - LoA - and therefore those who come bearing other gifts, thought experiments and reasoning are less than welcome. I wish you all the best for the future, absolutely sincerely, and hope you think critically.
Okay, thanks. I wonder if "loose ends" will ever be tied up for you, though? It seems like there's always some point on which you'll want to have the last word.

I also wish you all the best for the future, and I hope you think exactly as you choose to think!
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