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Old 11-06-2006, 01:30 PM
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EDIT: I am not talking about supernatural phenomena in general in this topic, just about, well, "ghosts" (see axiom 2 ).

Thank you so much everybody! Some fully excellent comments, tons of things I didn't think about. I'm already grinding my brain to reconcile, and I'll be making modifications to my axioms later today.

Daniel: You are correct. My definition of "observer" is horridly flimsy (there is none, in fact).

Steve and Akashic_Librarian: A very fine point! I'm pretty sure I can adapt to it. I'll see.

Zach: Why not? The only "religion" or "spiritually" we are accustomed with is that which affects humans, am I correct? Hence, humans (in a sense) invented--or rather, initiated--"religion" and "spiritually". Even if supernatural phenomena "exist", if there were no humans to "consciously" perceive them, and those phenomena did not affect the universe, then they might as well not have been "initiated" or "happening" in our universe.

Natsu: I'm not trying to disagree or "disprove" that. My axioms take into account multiple realities/universes. Also, ouija doesn't relate to what I'm rationalizing (see axiom 2).

Andreas: Regardless of any "Lens"es, there is still some instance when supernatural consciousness/thinking is "transferred" to our physical reality (see rationale for axiom 1). I don't think it will invalidate my argument. Also, I agree with you that--much like Daniel noted--axiom 2.1 is ill-shaped.

Thanks again everyone! I'll see if I can integrate your ideas so that the axioms still cover them, but also allow for the arguments I plan to make.

Sometimes, I just wish science was advanced to the point where it could map out every brain component's exact function so we could know once and for all if there is some information being transmitted from somewhere else.

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