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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot  All of us attract every person in our respective lives. |
Maybe, but I haven't seen enough evidence yet to convince me that the five-year-old playing happily on the sidewalk attracted the drunk driver who hit and killed him. I believe this happens because of a stupid thought/action process of the drunk driver, and had nothing to do with the child (except that the child unknowingly was in the wrong place at the wrong time, which can not be prevented unless you have the psychic abilities of Jesus Christ, perhaps).
I do believe we play the most active part in creating our lives. Plato's Law states: "A grateful mind is a great mind which eventually attracts to itself great things," and I have seen plenty of evidence for this. Indeed, it makes sense, since only a grateful person could even appreciate what they have (it's the very definition of being grateful). My own life is going great and I express gratitude for all of it. But I see no reason to think that EVERY single little thing that happens to a person is because of that person.
You said, "What you believe, you'll see." And I agree with you, because this statement is only in your head. It's your
perception of reality, which is often very different than reality itself. What we see is not always the truth, even if we think it is. Every single person in the world could think that the Sun doesn't exist... and yet there it would be, just shining like it always does.
I do like some aspects of the LOA belief. The main thing is that it forces personal responsibility. Too many people in the world tend to blame others for problems of their own creation. At least LOA says, "Nope, it's your own fault." The problem is that LOA says EVERYTHING is your fault, which doesn't seem logical to me.
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Originally Posted by fellowtraveler I wish Johnny would take this opportunity to explain exactly what his Crusade really is all about. It seems quite irrational in itself - even more so as he approaches hysteria. It's like going into a Christian forum and saying "Jesus sucks" repeatedly. What's the point? |
It's not like going into a Christian forum and saying "Jesus sucks." You would be banned quickly for doing that at any large Christian forum, and John would have been banned by now if he wasn't engaging in intelligent conversation.
Any large forum is going to attract people with different viewpoints. Large Atheist forums are filled with Christians sharing their views and vice versa. People will argue and discuss for different reasons such as entertainment, conversion (very rare I observe), a deeper understanding of both sides, etc.