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Originally Posted by John Freestone  Hi marinik,
Maybe we're being a bit too brief to really make sense to each other. Were you seriously suggesting that you have an atomic bomb, armed, in a box with a cat, the bomb hasn't gone off and the cat is 50% alive. I don't think so. What your actual point might be, I'm afraid I don't know, so I was replying tongue-in-cheek to what I thought must be an equally silly comment.
If the double slit experiment in the OP changes its result depending on whether it's looked at or not, and that is because the quantum state doesn't collapse one way or the other without an observer, just like shrodinger's cat thought experiment (did you get that bit - no-one actually suggested that if you actually did the experiment, the cat would actually be 50% alive - it's a theory, a thought experiment), and the same collapse of the quantum state is required for an atom bomb to go off, then presumably we could arm one and go on holiday, and it would, or wouldn't, or would half go off - which? I am making the point that this is clearly a stupid reading of physical principles and somewhere along the line things don't stack up like that. However, if you don't believe me, you're free to take an ordinary hand grenade, or just a fire cracker if you want to play it a bit safer, and try it for yourself.
Anywhere our realities are meeting? |
What of all of us from this side of the "stupid reading of physical principles" are trying to tell you is that this is how you see it when You turn around. And as long you expect to see it this way, and do not even doubt a tiny bit, it will always be that way for you. Period.
But it is so interesting from what high grounds you think you are coming from! Do you really think we should all join in line and think the same way you do just because you say that that is your truth and that because it is your truth so it must be THE UNIVERSAL TRUTH.
I am very sorry but beaming a particle from point A to point B has became reality! Two to bean um Scotti! One particle has been recorded to be at the same time in 3000 different places. None of them being the just the 1/3000 part of the particle but THE particle it self.
So my bomb is all over the place before I turn around and the cat is just scattered particles. But that is only in the world of "stupid reading of physical principles".
If the world was made out of john's we would be still in the caves. Thank Universe you gave as people like Einstein and Bohr....and the One who thought of the wheel!