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Old 12-24-2008, 03:06 AM
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Regarding the idea of manipulation -
It seems to be something that we all do all the time - Manipulating our envionment, our garden etc.

I think that Manipulation is not defined by the action, but the intent.

If for example, we explain another point of view to someone, we may have as an aim, to alter that person's understanding, but alternatively, we may just wish to help them see different perspectives, without any specific axe to grind, and therefore no specific interest in outcome.

I also get a negative feeling from people who try to manipulate others.
I think that most manipulation is unconscious, but if we become aware of attempted manipulation, then it is irritating, as it removes our perceived freedom.

I personally don't like the idea of putting on an act in order to quickly get girls.
I suppose it depends on what you want - If you wish to simply 'seduce' a girl quickly, or are interested in a more meaningful loving relationship

In the long run, it is more attractive to have the inner strengtth to be confident with the way we are, regardless of the perceived norm.
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