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Old 12-23-2008, 10:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Alexjstrandberg View Post
Being persuasive and manipulative are two distinct things. Persuasive is putting a bow and a ribbon on your argument. Manipulation is trying to control the person into thinking the way you by any means necessary.
If we know 100% that an action is going to produce a certain response, that is perfect "manipulation", is it not? The person had no choice but to respond the way they did.

But as I mentioned in another post, efficiency in controlling our environment really means being able to predict responses to our actions. This is not inherently sisnister. It just means that experience has taught us how behaviour X affects another person, and using that to achieve a repsonse we desire rather than one we don't.
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