[TonyToneTone]

Originally Posted by jaamkie

I have to disgree with finding these sort of women at "a classy upscale mall"- if they're hardworking and concerned with success, they're probably not spending all day wasting money in fancy malls (though sure they'll buy the clothes to look the part depending on career). Even when they are shopping, they probably shop intentionally, at a variety of stores depending on the quality required for a particular item. They'll be the type buzzing around with a plan and places to be, not the type ambling, window-shopping, and looking for random conversation.

I think one way to meet these women would be to figure out where they work, and based on that, where they'd be having lunch- casual but healthier places, not McDonalds, not a slow sit-down restaurant- in my area it might be Chipotle, Panera, Potbelly sandwiches. Have lunch there each day exactly at lunchtime, and chat with the women in the (inevitably long) lines. A conversation over lunch ought to give you enough time to make enough of a good impression to merit fitting a date into her busy schedule.

If that's what you believe, that's often what you'll find.