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Originally Posted by robc  Here is a question, when does a man get to call a women on being manipulative? |
Either can be manipulative. Speaking of turn-offs, someone who really tries at manipulation is a big turn-off. (PUAs pay attention!)
I'll do you guys one step better. Not only will I not expect the paid drink, if you ask to buy me one, I usually decline at first.
You see, if I accept the drink, I am now indebted to a stranger.
Nobody can manipulate you, if you don't let them.
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Back to the original question, the biggest attraction killer for women is men who are needy.
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A bigger attraction killer is a guy who is needy AND intimidated by a woman who is not. Some guys still have problems when the woman makes really good money, has a career she loves, and has interests besides just him. Even worse are the guys who don't realize they're not comfortable. Their response is to try to undermine the other person, weaken her self-esteem, discourage her from doing her hobby, keeping her from her friends, or talking her into quitting her job.
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If you are a man who has a clue about where you are headed in life, are self-sufficient, have a job, have some ambition, are funny and good natured and take care of yourself (you don't have to be an adonis but going to the gym every now & then, not being a slob, etc.), you cover most of the areas that would get women to be attracted to you.
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When I think of needy, I also think of people who are unhappy. They pin their happiness on having the right girlfriend/boyfriend.
Another person can give you joy but nobody can "make" you happy if you don't want to be. It's up to each of us to find our own happiness.