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Originally Posted by Vicariously Yours

"I also had to learn that I have no control over my life. I want control, but I don't have any. I must have faith in the Masters. They will guide me throughout. But I did not have faith."

Faith in the Masters? And that makes us what, slaves? That's disempowerment of the worst kind. If you'll look through Abraham's emotional scale, you'll see that Powerlessness is the very lowest emotion there is.

There's another very interesting thread here, that discusses the fact that not all channeled entities are positive. This particular entity sounds exactly like the kind that makes you believe it's highly positive to gain your trust, and then interweaves highly negative messages in between all the positivity.

Originally Posted by Dharma

Honestly I would scrutinize both. Catherine gives away her power to the masters and Abraham teaches you to give away your power to the universe. The beliefs are the same.... both make you powerless and unable to effect change without outside help ("masters" or "universe"). There still is the separation of self and other.

I disagree. Abraham teaches you a way to get what you want easier. Isn't that what a lot of personal development is about? Learning new ways of getting what you want? Abraham never tells you what to want. The choices are still completely yours. The universe is just the executive, carrying out your choices.

By contrast, in the Catherine scenario, she is giving her free will away, she is relinquishing control over her life.

Originally Posted by Richful

It could be said that in Abraham's teachings you have no control either, desire for your goal is the driving force, where does desire come from?

Desire comes from contrast. You observe your environment, and you form preferences. Those preferences then result in desires. And this has nothing to do with Abraham's teachings. You could ask yourself where desire comes from regardless of him.