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Originally Posted by yoopersmith I like this discussion...because people are discussing and not arguing...COOL!
Eckhart Tolle's conecpt of the ego (Pardon if I get it wrong, and feel free to correct me) goes something like this:
The real me...is consciousness. Not an idea or a concept, but just a sense of knowing that "YOU ARE".
He calls the "EGO" alot of different things such as: The voice in your head, Your FALSE sense of self, The YOU you think you are. I like to think that the real me is consciousness which I like to think also as "spirit" or a soul...thoughts, past, concept, things...anything that is not consciousness are considered "Form" or "Forms"... |
Aren't we form with conscious awareness ?
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Problems arise when people identify with Form...be that the ego, stuff, your life story (or past life stories as well if you are into that kind of thing!).
I like to think that my "I-am-ness" or consciousness HAS forms...but I am not those things.
Consciousness requires nothing...and doesn't change, die, and always exists NOW.
...I could go on a bit...but I just wanted to add to the discussion...There is more about Eckhart Tolle on my web page...he's cool and Steve read and recommends two of his books.
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In Steves article "The War on Ego," he uses the concept of ego as a separate entity from the self. When he uses it on a personal level, E.G................
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And when I do things to help people, it feeds my ego."
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what does this really mean? I believe it makes him feel good about himself. It gives meaning and a sense of fulfilment in his life. The ego isn't literally being fed at all. Maybe the ego is being fed by showing humility through giving the ego a pat on the back, instead of hmself but that's another story.
Another quote from the "War on Ego" connected to my thoughts on Erkhart Tolle and his concept of ego.
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The irony is that those who suggest we must dissociate from the ego are still very much ego-associated themselves. They simply detach their egos from materialism and re-attach it to spiritualism.
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I think this is exactly what Tolle has done. He dis-associated from the physical ego (identity) and re-attached to a spiritual ego. So on this point I do not trust Tolle as a spiritual leader, but that's another story.