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Originally Posted by Elrond  Yeah... with stress on the maybe !
Not fair!  |
If you offer to buy a drink for a woman to get her to talk to you isn't that a form of manipulation?!
I buy you this so that you will do this for me.
Isn't the same as the example that alot of women particularly hate, when a man buys a woman dinner and expects to have some sort of physical "relations" with her afterwards. That is manipulation.
There is no difference in either of these examples.
What I find interesting is that a women suggested the first one (buy a drink example).
Dating can be difficult, that's why I would suggest on line dating if you don't like the bar scene, cuts through the riff raff, browse through pics and read bio's and the rejection you may encounter from someone saying no to your request for meeting/date will be much less than what you would experience in person.
And you won't be accused of manipulation either.
Here is a question, when does a man get to call a women on being manipulative?
Back to the original question, the biggest attraction killer for women is men who are needy. If you are a man who has a clue about where you are headed in life, are self-sufficient, have a job, have some ambition, are funny and good natured and take care of yourself (you don't have to be an adonis but going to the gym every now & then, not being a slob, etc.), you cover most of the areas that would get women to be attracted to you.