[Plato]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

Nobody is every woman, a woman interested only in a guy's behavior is not every woman either.

Red herring.

I simply dislike generalizations based on gender stereotypes.

We're talking about generalizations based on experience of what actually generates attraction. Sure they aren't perfect but who cares? Most of us are aware that taking them as gospel would be silly.

I think they're not supportive of genuine communication.

I'm not sure I know what genuine communication is if it's not allowed to include assumptions about how other people will respond to us.

We're all very unique and wonderful persons. Making assumptions about people based on their gender (or even teaching them to conform to such stereotypes) takes a lot of beauty out of life IMO.

Our whole sense of reality is based on assumptions and people do conform to stereotypes without being taught to. It's not assumptions that are the real enemy Rose... it's harmful ones. In this case the aim is entirely positive for everyone involved. Isn't it in the benefit of women to have men who aren't total chumps, or overcompensating jackasses?

If you (not talking specifically to you Plato) meet a woman and want to sweep her off her feet, then instead of thinking "Ah, boobs => woman => interested in behavior => let's show I'm an alpha male", look at this unique individual in front of you, and try to find out who they really are (and what they're really interested in).

As a woman you won't realise this, but from a man's perspective it is very apparent that women are not interested in "getting to know you" in that way, until there is some attraction there. Sure attraction doesn't take a long time to build (maybe a few minutes) but it's got to come first. Then the rapport building you want will be the rest of the relationship.

I also think there can be no objective statistics about what women in general like, because the reality we perceive is a reflection of our beliefs. So if you believe that women are mostly interested in behavior, then you'll find plenty of women and studies to back this up. I don't believe that women are mostly interested in behavior, so in my reality, that's totally not the case. Who's right, huh? Nobody.

I don't know what all this chat is about behaviour. It's fairly obvious that there are many important factors which are necessary... physical, monetary (you wouldn't date a tramp would you.. would you? ), personality (that's behaviour).

Anyway, in summary I'd just say don't be a hater and be patient. We're all just trying our best!!