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Old 12-01-2008, 11:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
LordSappington
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Default Awkward situation

So, I've managed to find myself in an awkward social situation. It's sort of a long story...

About a year ago, I started hanging out with a girl Susan (the names have been changed to protect the innocent). It was somewhat understood that we were using each other as a crutch to meet new people, but I liked having her around to talk to if anything went sour. I found new and interesting places to go to meet new people. I was hoping this would set a stage for us actually becoming friends.

We ended up at a BBQ. There, she met this undergrad, George, who was maybe 19 years old (she was 23 at the time). They talked for a bit. She told me she thought he was cute. I didn't see it, but eventually they went on some dates. She told me that he was really immature on the dates and wasn't really interested in him. But he seemed very interested in her, so she kept on going out with him. After each time, she would complain how weird and awkward he was and she wanted to break it off, but she continued going out. To me, she seemed needy and craving the attention, and I began to lose respect for the girl because she seemed to be using the guy.

Eventually, she decided to end it, and so they had a talk. He didn't take it too well. Over the next several months, he sent her lots of e-mails and called her a bunch. He showed up randomly at her workplace even though she never told him where she worked. He found out who her friends were and started talking to them. At one point, he started secretly following her around. It was really, really creepy, but in a sort of sad and pathetic way. To me, he seems completely harmless and well-intentioned, but the whole stalking thing was a bit much. She changed her phone number and they had a talking to. After that, he pretty much left her alone.

Fast forward a few months, and she starts dating this business student. He announces to her that he wants a friends with benefits situation. She says she wants a relationship. She asks me what to do. I say break it off because these two are not compatible goals. But she doesn't. This new guy has a lot of money. He takes her out to very expensive restaurants on a weekly basis. He buys her expensive gifts (he bought her an iPod). He still maintains he wants a **** buddy. Eventually, he suddenly changes his mind and they decide to start a relationship. It seems to me that she liked him for his money. He was using her for sex. The whole thing just stank.

As I've discussed before, once she was in a relationship, she pretty much stopped talking to me. She was using me to meet a guy, and when she did, I was done.

Throughout this time, George would chat with me on Facebook. Pretty much every time we both were online at the same time. It got annoying. I would log on, and I'd immediately get a message from him. I often turned off chat just to avoid him. He would ask about my work, how my weekend went, etc. It all seemed very harmless, so I tried to be polite and reply. He never talked about Susan, so I figured maybe he did actually like me.

Anyhow, last night, he messages me again. The conversation started innocuously enough, but it soon turned to Susan. He asked me how she was doing. I said that she seemed busy to me, in hopes of avoiding the subject. He asks me why she doesn't respond to his e-mails. I say I don't know. Maybe she's really busy. I try to end it by saying she has a boyfriend. Then he tells me they broke up, which he learned the last time George and Susan spent time together. This was news to me.

He then goes on this tirade about how undergraduate girls are stupid and immature. How he goes on 2-3 dates per week but hates them all. They're not all like Susan. And how it's good that she got rid of him because "he wasn't really what she needed." I have no idea why he thought he knew what she needed. He goes on talking about how great they were together and how much he learned. I end the conversation saying, "I don't like talking about my friends behind their back, even if we're only saying good things."

So he says, "I respect that, but let me ask you about something else." There is this other graduate student who is too busy to talk to him. But he's trying to win her over. I first take him at his word, but it soon becomes clear to me that he's *still* talking about Susan but thinks he can get away with it by not calling her by name. He talks about how things went well the *second* time they started dating, but now things are going sour. But he's grown a lot and is inspired by this girl.

Eventually, he asks for my advice. I try to tell him that he's infatuated with this girl and is trying to fill a void in himself by spending time with her. He doesn't seem to get this. He keeps on talking about doing things to change her mind.

So, it seems that Susan broke up with her old boyfriend. She rebounded with George. And now she's screwing with his head *again* by doing the whole passive aggressive "I like you I don't routine." And George thinks I can solve this. I want none of this. I've lost a tremendous amount of respect for Susan throughout this whole ordeal; not only did she dump me as a friend, but I also see how incredibly manipulative she is. George is a very creepy stalker and has very immature views on relationships. I want nothing to do with either of them.

So, what do I do? I want to do the right thing, both morally and what will benefit everyone the most. Should I just push this guy away? He seems to value my input in a sincere way, but I think he's subconsciously using me to get to Susan. The entire situation just wreaks of badness from everyone involved. Your input is helpful.

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