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Old 11-09-2008, 07:28 AM   #633 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by torilink View Post
actually, no that is not correct. Jesus didn't start 'The Church'. I believe what Jesus led (he was a rabbi) was a sect of Judaism. His ideas weren't necessarily new or unique to only himself - but he was no doubt an effective rabbi & leader of his sect. Jesus left no instructions to start a new religion based upon HIM. He seemed to want to teach by example of how one should live.

Paul started a religion - based upon his interpretation of stories about Jesus. Even if you believe he was inspired by God - he wasn't the Christ nor God, just a man.
Jesus started the Church.

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Matthew 16:18-19 (NAB)

[18]*And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.
[19]*I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
Paul did not start the Church. The first parish was started under Peter.

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Acts 2:14 (NAB)

[14]*Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice, and proclaimed to them, “You who are Jews, indeed all of you staying in Jerusalem. Let this be known to you, and listen to my words.
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Acts 2:37-41 (NAB)

[37]*Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and they asked Peter and the other apostles, “What are we to do, my brothers?”
[38]*Peter (said) to them, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the holy Spirit.
[39]*For the promise is made to you and to your children and to all those far off, whomever the Lord our God will call.”
[40]*He testified with many other arguments, and was exhorting them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.”
[41]*Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand persons were added that day.
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