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Old 11-01-2008, 12:39 AM   #10 (permalink)
Rose of Cairo
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I'm feeling a bit stupid now, everybody seems to understand your book and I don't even get the names of your principles. The more you explain, the less I understand.

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Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina View Post
It seems that you're confusing Love with Oneness
I don't know. I really have a hard time conceiving "Love" without the dimension of loving others, feeling for them and the like. But I also have a very hard time seeing how I could love someone (myself or others) without wanting the very best for them. Is this part of Oneness too?

For me "loving chocolate" is no love, because I know it harms me. I can enjoy eating it because I'm addicted to sugar, but deep down I know it's not truly loving towards myself, thus eating chocolate for me breaks my alignment with Love. Same with loving others. Being dishonest towards others and selling them useless things is not aligned with Love in my eyes, no matter how much one might enjoy doing so.

I guess we're just using different definitions for the word "Love". I'll adapt to your definitions to talk about PDSP. But it isn't easy for me to stomach that someone who treats others as nothing but dollar signs is aligned with "Love"! Uuuuuugh, I need to go digest this one in some dark corner full of smelly orcs first...

Seen this way, a guy who always does what he wants and rapes little children because he totally loves raping little children is aligned with Love?

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Love is simply choosing to connect. You can connect with money. You can connect with drugs. You can be really passionate about doing something destructive. In the context of the TLP triangle, Love is using your free will to connect with whatever the heck you want to.
Given this definition, how can someone NOT be aligned with Love? We're all connecting with something all the time.

You wrote that before meeting Erin, you were aligned with Truth and Power, but not so much with Love. I cannot imagine how you could study and not connect to your studies. You wrote "To connect means to give something your attention, to think about it, and to engage with it". I remember that when I was studying maths and computer science, I very much connected with my studies. I thought a lot about the things I was learning, about the theorems I had to prove. Sometimes it was like hugging, sometimes more like wrestling, but I definitely got engaged with the matter. I often got all passionate about some of the discoveries I made.

I cannot imagine how you could study without giving your studies your attention, thinking about them or engaging with them.

And even someone who doesn't particularly like his job and spends his evenings doing nothing of interest is connected: with the steak he likes to eat, with his daily watching TV, with the boss that he dislikes or his little routine that he's attached to.

I don't get it. How can someone not connect with anything? That's not possible, unless you are a robot and have no emotion whatsoever.

What am I thinking wrong?
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